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Old 05-24-2021, 12:29 PM   #1
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2008 Bounder 38F...what does this container hold?

We are trying to identify what the purpose of this container is for. We believe it to be the fluid container for the power steering pump fluid. Unfortunately, it has a sticker on it that makes it appear to be the overflow tank for coolant. After tracing lines for hours, we have discovered for fact that it is NOT connected to the radiator in any way. The coolant container sets just above this tank in photos.

If it is indeed the power steering pump fluid, it has been mixed with something else and is now a milky pinkish fluid. How do we flush this out? Our guess is it was topped off with coolant.

The rig is almost impossible to turn at idle speeds but works fine once you get to higher RPMs.

Thanks in advance for any help!!
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The sticker clearly refers to the cooling system and radiator. It includes procedures to fill the radiator and shut petcocks for the heater loop. That is a coolant reservoir/surge tank. That appears to be a factory installed sticker.


Can't think of anything else it could be.
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Where does the radiator cap overflow tube go?
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If it is the power steering pump reservoir, the hoses to the pump ought to be obvious. Where do those two hoses go?



Assuming you are right, there are some flushing procedures online, though mostly oriented toward cars. Is this a diesel Bounder or gas?


https://www.yourmechanic.com/article...-spencer-cates
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/...eering-systems
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2008 Bounder 38F...what does this container hold?

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We are trying to identify what the purpose of this container is for. We believe it to be the fluid container for the power steering pump fluid. Unfortunately, it has a sticker on it that makes it appear to be the overflow tank for coolant. After tracing lines for hours, we have discovered for fact that it is NOT connected to the radiator in any way. The coolant container sets just above this tank in photos.



If it is indeed the power steering pump fluid, it has been mixed with something else and is now a milky pinkish fluid. How do we flush this out? Our guess is it was topped off with coolant.



The rig is almost impossible to turn at idle speeds but works fine once you get to higher RPMs.



Thanks in advance for any help!!


Since you are 100% sure itís not coolant what does it go to then? What ever it is itís going to need flushing and system also. I just google looks like the power steering tank and someone added antifreeze.
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Hey Gary! We traced the 2 large hoses. One goes along the frame rail and goes to what appears to be a gear driven pump in the back bottom part of the engine. I can get a pic of that for everyone to see. The other hose continues to travel all the way forward and connects to the steering wheel gear box inlet. The outlet side of the steering box has a blue hose that tracks all the way back.


That is what is making us believe it is 100% the power steering pump reservoir. We have Googled and can find no other way to check power steering pump fluid level. Or any fill procedures.


I will try and post a few more pics today.


This is a diesel rig. Cummins ISB 325




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If it is the power steering pump reservoir, the hoses to the pump ought to be obvious. Where do those two hoses go?



Assuming you are right, there are some flushing procedures online, though mostly oriented toward cars. Is this a diesel Bounder or gas?


https://www.yourmechanic.com/article...-spencer-cates
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/...eering-systems
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I will do my best to track that line and get that info for you today.



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Where does the radiator cap overflow tube go?
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We are believing this to be HORRIBLE sticker placement. There is no way that sticker would fit on the actual tank as it is thin and wide.



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The sticker clearly refers to the cooling system and radiator. It includes procedures to fill the radiator and shut petcocks for the heater loop. That is a coolant reservoir/surge tank. That appears to be a factory installed sticker.


Can't think of anything else it could be.
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I may be wrong, but I tend to agree with you that it may be a power steering fluid reservoir. The Max/Min lines are a lot closer together than a normal coolant overflow plus the screw on cap doesn't look like a traditional coolant reservoir. If water gets mixed with a petroleum based fluid like PS fluid, it tends to turn a milky white like that. Where does the hose from this tank go? If it is a PS fluid reservoir, there will be a single hose going to the PS pump.
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So if it is the PS reservoir, then it sounds like someone added coolant to it thinking it was the coolant overflow.
Either that or your PS pump is aerating the hydraulic fluid and that is why it is foamy pink.
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I can tell you for certain it is the power steering reservoir.

The polyethylene tank behind it with the metal pressure cap is your coolant reservoir.

If it contains a liquid (or coolant) other than power steering fluid, someone made an error.
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We are believing this to be HORRIBLE sticker placement. There is no way that sticker would fit on the actual tank as it is thin and wide.
Can’t agree more!

The least that should have been done is another brightly colored label that states, “HYDRAULIC RESERVOIR. ADD HYDRAULIC FLUID ONLY!”

That was an accident waiting to happen, and it looks like it may have.
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Hey Goat,
Yeah...like has been mentioned that's the PS reservoir. I have flushed my system and used the attached guide. It's not terribly difficult but needed in your case for sure.

If that doesn't restore your steering even at low RPM, your pump may need replacing. It can be a DIY in less than hour. Sorry to hear of your troubles.

I have more info and diagrams for troubleshooting the system if needed. Just holler back. Best of luck.
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The sticker clearly refers to the cooling system and radiator. It includes procedures to fill the radiator and shut petcocks for the heater loop. That is a coolant reservoir/surge tank. That appears to be a factory installed sticker.
OH NO!!!!
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