2014 Excursion 33D towing.. and mods..

[aauummm]

Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR

anyway, that was just todays update,... lets see what tomorrow brings..

I hope it turns out better for you, man!

[LVRVLUVR]

Originally Posted by aauummm

I hope it turns out better for you, man!

did you look in the classifieds

[aauummm]

Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR

did you look in the classifieds

I took a look through them a couple of days ago. Maybe I should take a look now, almost afraid to now since you asked....OK, here goes. This might not be good.

[aauummm]

Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR

did you look in the classifieds

Whew...thought that I might just see your brand new Excursion for sale. I didn't see anything unusual so I must be missing something!

[aauummm]

Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR

did you look in the classifieds

OK..spotted them now. So let me see if I have this correct. You have a set of 19.5" that have never been mounted. And you have a set of 22.5" with Hankook's on them. Did I get that right?

[LVRVLUVR]

Originally Posted by aauummm

OK..spotted them now. So let me see if I have this correct. You have a set of 19.5" that have never been mounted. And you have a set of 22.5" with Hankook's on them. Did I get that right?

yep,... probley be buy'n a new motorhome... wife stil like the diesel best ...

I'd like to buy a gas so I can use my wheels


still hav'n decided to sell the 22.5s... gonna keep them just incase..

[LVRVLUVR]

Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR

according to freight liner , the chassis was built to be 26k gcvwr

ok alarm off,... freightliner miss informed me as to the gcvw

it is 30,000

[jondrew55]

Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR

ok alarm off,... freightliner miss informed me as to the gcvw

it is 30,000

Yea, here's my placard from the 35C. Clearly says 30k. That would have been a giant goof on Fleetwoods part

[LVRVLUVR]

Originally Posted by jondrew

Yea, here's my placard from the 35C. Clearly says 30k. That would have been a giant good on Fleetwoods part

freightliner does not get involved with gcvwr.... that was the miss understanding.... I think... were still talking..

[IdahoSRT10]

Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR

yep,... probley be buy'n a new motorhome... wife stil like the diesel best ...

I'd like to buy a gas so I can use my wheels


still hav'n decided to sell the 22.5s... gonna keep them just incase..

Want to trade!

[edgray]

Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR

freightliner does not get involved with gcvwr.... that was the miss understanding.... I think... were still talking..

I believe you will ultimately learn that is incorrect. In fact, the chassis OEMs have to specify both the GVWR and the GCWR because the brakes, suspension, and powertrain components are factors that determine each of the ratings. I'm surprised to NOT see the label provided by FCCC pictured. Normally both ratings are part of the chassis specs provided to the coach builders so they know how much house they can build on top and how much towing capacity they can list in their marketing efforts.

One other observation: as someone who used to be "rep" with a chassis builder, I find it very unusual for a supplier (FCCC) to be pointing their finger at a customer (ASV). Normally, when such a dispute arises, the "problem" is resolved behind closed doors, and never discussed in public.

[SarahW]

Originally Posted by edgray

I believe you will ultimately learn that is incorrect. In fact, the chassis OEMs have to specify both the GVWR and the GCWR because the brakes, suspension, and powertrain components are factors that determine each of the ratings. I'm surprised to NOT see the label provided by FCCC pictured. Normally both ratings are part of the chassis specs provided to the coach builders so they know how much house they can build on top and how much towing capacity they can list in their marketing efforts.

One other observation: as someone who used to be "rep" with a chassis builder, I find it very unusual for a supplier (FCCC) to be pointing their finger at a customer (ASV). Normally, when such a dispute arises, the "problem" is resolved behind closed doors, and never discussed in public.

Ed--we have a Ford chassis and not a Freightliner, but our "Incomplete Vehicle Manufacture" sticker from Ford does not include the GCWR. It only has the front/rear/combined GVWR. The Federal Certification tag includes all those plus the GCWR and the max towed weight.

[aauummm]

Originally Posted by edgray

I believe you will ultimately learn that is incorrect. In fact, the chassis OEMs have to specify both the GVWR and the GCWR because the brakes, suspension, and powertrain components are factors that determine each of the ratings. I'm surprised to NOT see the label provided by FCCC pictured. Normally both ratings are part of the chassis specs provided to the coach builders so they know how much house they can build on top and how much towing capacity they can list in their marketing efforts.

One other observation: as someone who used to be "rep" with a chassis builder, I find it very unusual for a supplier (FCCC) to be pointing their finger at a customer (ASV). Normally, when such a dispute arises, the "problem" is resolved behind closed doors, and never discussed in public.

Once you mentioned the above, I thought that I would do a little more research into this subject. This is what I found for the F-53 chassis. The GCWR is not listed anywhere on either the Winnebago tag or Ford tag that is placed on the driver's side wall of the MH.

However, it is listed (and the GVWR) in the Ford Body Builders Layout Book, Ford's Chassis Specification "esource" spec book and Ford's Class A Motorhome Spec book. So the bodybuilders (Winnebago, Fleetwood, etc.) would be limited by Ford as to what they could build on top of the chassis (by the specified GVWR and GAWR's) and the consumer is limited by Ford for both what they put in the MH (GVWR and GAWR's) and how much they can tow (GCWR).

I have no idea how other chassis manufacturers handle this except for what has been mentioned in this thread.

PS- You beat me to it Sarah-I'm a slow typist!

[LVRVLUVR]

well.... pretty much heard that my chassis is 30k gcwr.... in so many words....


what I'm still after is the fuel map...