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Old 11-20-2016, 10:06 AM   #1
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36U versus 38K

I am looking to get my first motorhome. The Pace Arrow 36U and 38K have the floorplan and amenities that my wife and I like. We would like to tow a Jeep Wrangler. Looking at the specs for both units, it looks like the 38K may have a problem towing the Jeep.

The 36U has a GVWR of 29,500 and GCWR of 33,000, so this seems like this would do better towing a Jeep.

I have read a few other posts on the forum about thoughts on the 38K and its limited towing capacity. But I have not been able to find any comments from anyone who actually has the 38K and tows anything behind it.

So I am wondering if anyone has actual experience towing a Jeep Wrangler behind either the 36U or the 38K? Thanks.
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I don't have the exact towing experience you are asking for but I wanted to throw this out. For example our Bounder has a GVWR of 22,000 with a GCWR of 26,000. We used to tow a Jeep Liberty that, fully loaded, weighed in at a hair over 4,200. The coach has been 4-corner weighed, fully loaded for travel including full fresh water & half full grey & black tanks, & our actual GVWR is just barely over 18,000.

So what I'm saying is, depending on how much each of those coaches actually weighs loaded, you may have more wiggle room than you think as far as towing capacity...of course, also staying within the hitch rating of said coach.

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I don't have the exact towing experience you are asking for but I wanted to throw this out. For example our Bounder has a GVWR of 22,000 with a GCWR of 26,000. We used to tow a Jeep Liberty that, fully loaded, weighed in at a hair over 4,200. The coach has been 4-corner weighed, fully loaded for travel including full fresh water & half full grey & black tanks, & our actual GVWR is just barely over 18,000.

So what I'm saying is, depending on how much each of those coaches actually weighs loaded, you may have more wiggle room than you think as far as towing capacity...of course, also staying within the hitch rating of said coach.

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Thanks. Yes, I tend to agree that we would probably be under the GVWR, it will almost always be just the 2 of us, and even though we will probably take along quite a bit of stuff, I just don't see how the 2 of us would max out the GVWR. So it does seem like there is some wiggle room, but there is really no way of knowing for sure. And that is the reason I was hoping to hear some feedback from some owners of the Pace Arrow 36U and/or 38K and see what the actual experience is with towing. Thanks again for the comments.
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:11 PM   #4
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I have a 38K on order and am wondering the same thing. I took a picture of the tag at the Pamona show. It also says the '17 has a 10,000 lb tow rating. Very confusing
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I own a 2017 pace arrow 38K and tow a 2016 Ford Focus and the coach performs fine. We just finished a 2200 mile maiden trip up to Moab Utah from the San Diego area and it did fine going up the passes. It not a Ferrari up the passes but I'm doing 45-50 mph and getting 9.5-10 mpg. When I ordered this coach in may, I was looking at the 36U because I like the new look and colors it's offered in but I didn't like or want the overhead bunk which I had in my 2015 thor challenger and it rattled a lot. I also noticed the capacity of the gray and black tanks are pretty small. The wife liked the floor plan of the 38K so that is what we bought.
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We have 2016 38k and tow a 2014 jeep Cherokee trailhawk with no problems. Towed it to New Hampshire and Maine and didn't know it was even behind us. So a jeep wrangler should be no problem.
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Don't guess, you need to determine the weight you can tow...

Tow rating is the lower of:

1. Coach's hitch rating.

2. Coach tow rating.

3. Chassis tow rating (sometimes different than the coach's).

4. The difference in weight between the coach's GCWR and the coach's actual weight when ready to tow.
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The problem with the 38K is its limited towing capacity if its any where close to fully loaded. This is caused by the transmission. The MH2500 unit installed in this unit is only rated for 33,000 GCWR. Had they put in the MH3000 there would not be an issue.
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You get what you pay for. There are a few 38K's manufactured in Decatur. The Pace Arrow 38K has the 2500 xmsn. The Discovery 38K same floorplan but an upgraded powertrain with the 3000 xmsn and a CGVW of 46400 lbs.. Other differences are TPO roof on the Pace and Vinyl floor tiles vs solid roof and porcelain in the Discovery. Did I mention the Discovery costs a bit more too? To add further fuel to the fire there are also Holiday Ramblers with the same floorplans as the Fleetwoods. There is a similarity between a 36U and a 38K but in that price range the opposing slides and the vastly increased interior space of a 38K really makes the 38K more desirable to me. I could easily tow my Sonic behind a Pace Arrow 38K but I don't know what with the weight of the Jeep is.
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We have the Pace 38k and just purchased a new Wrangler. We towed it to Pismo Beach last weekend and barely felt it. The only time was going up the Conejo grade which I believe is a 7% grade. We made it a 45mph at 2200 rpm. Not the fastest but same as our old gasser with a Liberty
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36U versus 38K

I have the 2017 Pace Arrow 38k and we tow a Jeep Liberty with no issues.
Heading out to the Pacific Northwest with it soon.
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