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08-10-2021, 07:04 AM
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Maik, as you go along, can you post some photos of the wet bay demo/reconstruction. With all of the connections currently behind walls, that is the one place that I am fretting the most. I had to replace the outdoor shower and fix some black tank broken connections (when the tanks initially dropped before my temp fix), but even with some of the access panels removed, I still can’t imagine how the removal of all of that stuff can be done easily. I have photos from Meames1 and Drewfab, but more info on what is behind the curtain will make me sleep easier. Best of luck on the rebuild. Dan
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08-10-2021, 07:01 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Ontario, CANADA
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Dan; I am attaching some pictures of my wet bay before the tear out. They are close ups of various lines/ pipes that I colour coded and marked. I can assure you I was amazed at the mess of hoses. it is a little intimidating, but like the total rebuild it is one piece at a time. Mark and trace each hose and fitting till you understand its purpose and how it is run through the various walls. You will see I marked everything, and took a picture.
Also when I was taking everything apart I tried to take whole sections of pipe apart to better visualize the rebuild.
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Mike and Family
98 American Eagle EVS, Cummins C8.3
2022 Jeep Wrangler Sahara ECO, Blue Ox
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08-10-2021, 08:46 PM
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Junior Member
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Thank you for the photos. As I look through these, it makes me even more uneasy about it, but I will overthink it for a week and then go head first into it. Keep posting photos as they help all of us understand the challenges ahead. If it wasn’t for some tire damage on the back of last bulkhead, I’d probably just leave all of this alone and fix it from underneath. Not an option for me, so I am not far behind you. Keep up the good work. Dan
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08-14-2021, 12:37 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Ontario, CANADA
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The floor has been disassembled to show what was left of the frame. Note- that the plywood under the frame is what I had used to support the floor until I was ready to rebuild the basement. Believe me I a shocked how bad the condition of the frame and steel. The long stretch of missing tubing on the drivers side had fallen out when I nearly lost my propane tank last year. The wet bay was held together with a strip of aluminum (previous owner) and the plywood support. She was rotten to the core along the back and the drivers side. A few more walls to remove; then off to the fabricator (friend) to build ALL new.
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Mike and Family
98 American Eagle EVS, Cummins C8.3
2022 Jeep Wrangler Sahara ECO, Blue Ox
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08-17-2021, 05:47 AM
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Yes, that pile looks waayyyy too familiar. You're doing a great job, and it will last for a very long time. Keep at it !
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1999 American Dream 40DVS
Spartan Chassis, Cummins ISC 330
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08-17-2021, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by degkop
Thank you for the photos. As I look through these, it makes me even more uneasy about it, but I will overthink it for a week and then go head first into it. Keep posting photos as they help all of us understand the challenges ahead. If it wasn’t for some tire damage on the back of last bulkhead, I’d probably just leave all of this alone and fix it from underneath. Not an option for me, so I am not far behind you. Keep up the good work. Dan
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The wet bay is intimidating at first. Though it isn't bad once you understand where all the piping is going and what it does. Marking them like Maik is a great way to keep track of everything. When I did mine, I had to "get straight" in my head where each line was going and what it's purpose was.
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Spartan Chassis, Cummins ISC 330
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08-28-2021, 03:25 PM
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Location: Ontario, CANADA
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Been away working up in Northern Ontario, but my fabricator has been busy. Completed the 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" vertical walls. Once the rest are done, I will be having everything hot dip galvanized. I decided to go will 100 wall tubing to give it more strength. This is the part that makes it a little easier to visualize the end.
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98 American Eagle EVS, Cummins C8.3
2022 Jeep Wrangler Sahara ECO, Blue Ox
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08-29-2021, 05:34 PM
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Progress, Nice !
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1999 American Dream 40DVS
Spartan Chassis, Cummins ISC 330
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09-05-2021, 07:18 PM
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American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2011
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I must be Lucky ! My 92 remains fully Intact Now signs of rot or fatigue on all of my basement structure at all -- wonder if they changed their process over the years !
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Brownsburg Indiana
1992 American Eagle-8.3C-450hp
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09-05-2021, 10:39 PM
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#220
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Senior Member
American Coach Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRA225
I must be Lucky ! My 92 remains fully Intact Now signs of rot or fatigue on all of my basement structure at all -- wonder if they changed their process over the years !
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I will go with "lucky" in your case. My guess is where your Bird has lived and been stored for 29 years has been most important.
My 1991 has some of the rust issues in various locations in the compartments and supporting structures for lower body panels.
I believe my Bird lived in Montana for a while. I found an old MT license plate in a cabinet. It also spent time in South Carolina before I brought it to humid Florida a few years ago. However, the rust was taking its toll before Florida.
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"The Eagle" - 1991 American Eagle 38J - Cummins 6CTA8.3 300hp DP, Allison MT643 4spd. Trans., Spartan chassis.
Link to our Eagle Thread
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09-22-2021, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Meames1
Steel has been ordered. Next is to blueprint the original structure and making some plans.
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Did you used mild steel like A53 or structural A513 and what was the thickness/Gauge? I'm knee deep in my 2000 Gulfstream basement frame under tanks and front bay next to it. Basically an 8' x 8' section of basement floor. I'm ready to order steel but not sure what's necessary or over kill. Also you mentioned stainless steel for bottom skin. Can you tell me the type 400, 300 series and gauge you went with? Any help would be great!
Mark
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09-23-2021, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkN
Did you used mild steel like A53 or structural A513 and what was the thickness/Gauge? I'm knee deep in my 2000 Gulfstream basement frame under tanks and front bay next to it. Basically an 8' x 8' section of basement floor. I'm ready to order steel but not sure what's necessary or over kill. Also you mentioned stainless steel for bottom skin. Can you tell me the type 400, 300 series and gauge you went with? Any help would be great!
Mark
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Tubing was all mild steel 16 gauge (.065 wall). The factory in my case used 18 gauge, but my supplier carried the 16 gauge so I went with that.
The Stainless Steel was 304 sheet, .018, in 2B finish.
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04-30-2022, 09:31 AM
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@drewfab
Can you send me your files? Just bought a '96 American Eagle 40 Widebody. It needs a lot of TLC, but the price was right, and so, the work begins. This is to be our traveling quarters for my daughter's softball tournaments. Gonna need this repair soon. Any chance you generated a BOM when you did yours?
Email is firehawk222001 at yahoo dot com
TIA to you and the the OP for your hard work and willingness to help this community
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05-02-2022, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by broke_again
@drewfab
Can you send me your files? Just bought a '96 American Eagle 40 Widebody. It needs a lot of TLC, but the price was right, and so, the work begins. This is to be our traveling quarters for my daughter's softball tournaments. Gonna need this repair soon. Any chance you generated a BOM when you did yours?
Email is firehawk222001 at yahoo dot com
TIA to you and the the OP for your hard work and willingness to help this community
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I just sent you a dropbox link. Let me know if you didn’t get it.
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