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05-10-2021, 02:34 PM
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Breaker panel info needed
Hi
I have a 15 Excursion 35b and have a mis-wired breaker panel and looking for someone with a similar rig. Can you check your circuits 3 and 22 and see if they are wired correctly…. 22 should be the block heater and 3 the outlets in the kitchen area, mine is the opposite. The block heater should be a 15a and the outlets 20a
Thanks for your help
Mark
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05-10-2021, 04:52 PM
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Sorry, I don't have your rig, but from what your describing... It sound correct.
The Electrical code (which applies to RV too) requires branch circuits (kitchen outlets etc.) to be protected with no more than a 15A breaker (1500 watts) and most heating appliances (block heater) can be up to a 20A breaker (2000 watts)
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05-10-2021, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobphoenix
Sorry, I don't have your rig, but from what your describing... It sound correct.
The Electrical code (which applies to RV too) requires branch circuits (kitchen outlets etc.) to be protected with no more than a 15A breaker (1500 watts) and most heating appliances (block heater) can be up to a 20A breaker (2000 watts)
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Well I would think that too but I called Fleetwood and they said the block heater should be 15a and the galley ( it also feeds the vacuum and outlet near water hookup) should be 20a.. that is the way the panel is marked, just not how it’s wired
Mark
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05-11-2021, 07:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobphoenix
...The Electrical code (which applies to RV too) requires branch circuits (kitchen outlets etc.) to be protected with no more than a 15A breaker (1500 watts) and most heating appliances (block heater) can be up to a 20A breaker (2000 watts)
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Hmmm, I have a '16 Bounder with a fireplace. It is an electric heater. It has a 15A breaker.
I was under the impression the "Electrical Code" is NFPA 1192. It is different than a traditional building code. But that is my impression and am not saying it is fact.
A good read here:
What's "Code" anyway
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05-11-2021, 07:34 AM
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Where are my fellow Excursion drivers at!!!
Mark
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05-11-2021, 12:48 PM
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Kill all power and open your panel up and confirm the wire size and make sure the size conforms to the breaker in use.
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05-11-2021, 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobphoenix
Sorry, I don't have your rig, but from what your describing... It sound correct.
The Electrical code (which applies to RV too) requires branch circuits (kitchen outlets etc.) to be protected with no more than a 15A breaker (1500 watts) and most heating appliances (block heater) can be up to a 20A breaker (2000 watts)
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Well, in the general case yes but the NEC has lots of exceptions for different configurations. And the NEC gets modified a bit when adopted in each state and major city as well as in specific applications, including RVs. The NEC as applied to RVs is embodied in NFP 1192, which in turn is incorporated in ANSI 119.5. The net of it is that RVs don't adhere to quite the same NEC as was adopted by your home state or city.
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05-15-2021, 01:41 AM
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Mark, I have a '15 35B. I'll check when there on Saturday and report back. My schematics shows 20A on circuit 3 and 15A on 22. One thing I do know is that my L1 and L2 are wired through the opposite shunts which doesn't affect anything except on the EMS screen readings for amp draws.
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05-16-2021, 02:15 AM
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nyparrothead, I checked the circuits on my 35B and found them to be wired correctly. Checked all but the Washer/Dryer, wasn't able to get to it due to slide being in. Circuit 3 is for the Kitchen area, etc and is 20 amps; circuit 22 is for the block heater and is 15 amps. As mentioned in previous post, Leg1 and Leg2 are going through the incorrect shunts so the Power Control System displays amp draws opposite on legs of what it should. Also, compared the breakers in the box to the Fleetwood schematics and found the following discrepancies: Circuit 5 is 15 amp, not 20; circuit 9 is 20 amp not 15, circuit 15 is 30 amp not 15; and circuit 16 is 30 amp not 15. Circuits 15 and 16 are for the inverter/charger in and out, so I assume upgraded to 30 amps for the residential refrigerator option. I hope this helps.
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05-16-2021, 05:43 AM
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Thanks for your help…. Your sounds like it was wired correctly…. I will check the rest of the circuits when we get home and re-wire those 2 breakers…..
Thanks again for the info
Mark
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