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Old 01-18-2022, 05:00 AM   #1
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Evaluating American Coach Eagle 45ís

Hello, Iím doing research and evaluating used (2012-2020) American Coach 45 footers. I am impressed with the Liberty Bridge chassis design. Iíve noticed there are some ACís that have Detroit Diesels and some with Cummins engines. I have heard good things about the Series 60 DDís and some issues with the ISX 600 Cummins with intake valve issue requiring headwork to resolve. Is there a list somewhere with production years and engines offered in what models?

Any advice / experience on American Coach Eagle power plants, Liberty Bridge Chassis, general livability or things I should watch out for with these coaches? Insights from this forum are so valuable and appreciated as we look at our options before making this sizable investment in our future adventures.

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Old 01-18-2022, 08:58 AM   #2
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We really love our 2015 Eagle 45 B with Freightliner Chassis and ISX 600.

As far as the engine goes trying to find info relative to valve failures and ceramic injector pump piston failures on THE 600 MODELS
is like pulling teeth on cats high on meth.

More info is available on the 650s and a bit more on the 605s it APPEARS that the single cam 600s are PROBABLY safe.

After everything I have found out I am comfortable enough that I am not going to preemptively replace the head and injector pump.

As far as chassis goes, I have had a 45-foot coach on a Spartan chassis. From my standpoint they are both OK and do the job.

The ISX has plenty of power and on hot days pulling 4500# plus of toad and gear it goes up the mountain grades just fine, no overheating, no problems.

What we like about the Eagle is the ceiling height (compared to our old coach) and the full wall slide. Those 2 items are amazing in how much they increase your perception of added space.

Compared to our Travel Supreme 45-footer there is a LOT less storage space especially in the basement. American wasted a lot of space by taking up full compartments for the inverter, house batteries, and aqua hot. Each has its own FULL compartment, and each is placed in the compartment so as to pretty much preclude other storage in it. A little thought and engineering could have compacted these items and allowed much more storage.
Interior fit and finish are OK to mediocre. We were spoiled by the solid wood cabinetry made and installed by Amish Craftsmen in our Travel Supreme.

We are the second owners of our Eagle and looking through maintenance records the 1st year and a half of its life it spent a lot of time in the shop (coach side) getting warranty punch list items fixed. After that it appears annual routine maintenance only. We have had it a little over a year now and driven about 12,000 miles without problems, very few minor issues needing attention.

Our only major expenses were total tire replacement and house batteries due to age.

Hope this helps.
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The engine is a DD 13, not one of the Series 60s. It has plenty of power and gets about 7 MPG. I think you'll find the problems with the ISX have been fixed with the new 605....but I'd find out for sure, a call to Cummins could probably answer that.

It has a Freightliner chassis. The biggest disadvantage to the Freightliner is that our last AC, an Allegiance on a Spartan, had an outside bay designated for fuel filters...they were easy to change. There is no such bay on this coach. The three fuel filters are accessed by opening the hatch in the rear bath floor, laying down on the floor on the curb side and reaching down along the side of the engine. I could change the filters in the Allegiance, I can't on this coach.

Airboss68 mentioned storage problems. If you are creative, you can use some of the areas noted for small items to store. I store a 25' 50 amp power extension cord under my inverter/charger (it is mounted on a stand); spare engine coolant, AH coolant, a tool box and a breaker bar in the AH compartment; and I swapped the eight 6v batteries for two 12v batteries, so I store misc items in the battery compartment (wheel chocks, lumber, etc).

As an aside, most coaches of this year were built with two sets of four deep cycle batteries and an inverter/charger. One set was for the residential refer and one set for the rest of the coach. The original owner opted for the eight batteries but only one inverter/charger. Since we do virtually no dry camping the eight 6v AGM batteries were way more than needed. In August I replaced them with two 12v AGM deep cycles that have done fine...which resulted in room in that bay and a reduction of 368 pounds.
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Thank you Airboss and Cat320! Your insights are extremely helpful as we evaluate coach options. I have been seriously looking at the 2005-2008 model year Country Coach Magnas due to the DynoMax chassis... but most of them will require some hefty upgrades (wet PTO upgrade, radiator, fogged window repairs, airbags, aqua hot, carpet replacement, etc) and they have become a little harder to find the last few months at a reasonable price... so I started looking at some newer model Newmar and American coaches. I appreciate you taking your time to respond with your real world experience! Thank you again and safe travels.
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You can find 2004-2008 Monaco Executive, Signature, and Holiday Rambler Navigator coaches with the Detroit Series 60 engine. I also saw a 2008 Beaver Marquis with the Detroit Series 60. After that I think you are into older Newell or Prevost coaches.
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