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05-16-2014, 10:27 AM
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Have you checked the trip switches in your inverter??? One or both of them can kick off the power to your gfi's
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05-16-2014, 10:34 AM
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Tom, take you plug back out of the wall/box.
Turn off power to the plug via the breaker.
Take the wires out of the back of the GFI plug. You should have at least 2 pairs of wires coming into that plug, maybe more, but they should be in pairs.
Take each pair and separate them apart. Put wire nuts on each exposed wire so you don't accidentally touch them or bump into them.
You need to determine which pair is the supply side wires, this may be difficult to tell just by looking at them, but then again may be fairly obvious.
With the wire nuts in place, turn back on your power.
Take your volt meter and start testing the wires, one pair should have power, that will be your supply pair of wires.
IF you have power at a pair of wires at the back of the plug, then you know your problem is there at the plug.
IF you find that you do not have power at any of the pairs, the problem is at your breaker. There is a remote possibility that the problem is between your breaker and your plug, but doubtful if it work previously.
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05-16-2014, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenB
Have you checked the trip switches in your inverter??? One or both of them can kick off the power to your gfi's
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Exactly! Look at the side or end of your inverter and you will see one or two (maybe even three) push button type of circuit breakers. One of them is tripped. Push it in to reset.
Can't believe no one prior to Glen's reply has suggested this. This is probably the #1 solution when the loss of AC at some, but not all, outlets.
Ron
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05-16-2014, 10:47 AM
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I'd measure the voltage supplied to the GFI. If you have two wires going to it then it is a stand alone. If there are 4 wires going to it then it is controlling itself and any other outlets down stream from it.
If you do not have power to the GFI then back track to the source and look for voltage.
Does it work when AC is plugged in? If it does start at the transfer switch.
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05-16-2014, 10:49 AM
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I put a tester on the wires , it indicates power is off the that plug, what now?
Tom
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05-16-2014, 10:59 AM
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I'll throw this in , a friend with a similar problem , the fridge 110 outlet was daisy chained to the bathroom GFI. The ice maker was supplied 110 power and because the freezer need defrosting the ice was triggering the GFI to trip. Not sure if your rig is similar just thought I'd throw it in.
EDIT: OK , not useful , glad your fixed.
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05-16-2014, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lanerd
Exactly! Look at the side or end of your inverter and you will see one or two (maybe even three) push button type of circuit breakers. One of them is tripped. Push it in to reset.
Can't believe no one prior to Glen's reply has suggested this. This is probably the #1 solution when the loss of AC at some, but not all, outlets.
Ron
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Where do I send the repair bill money to, you guys solved my problem! The inverter had a circuit breaker tripped, I can't say thank you enough!
Tom
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05-16-2014, 11:02 AM
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If you do not have power at the back of the plug when the breaker is on, then your problem is at the breaker.
Go to that particular breaker in your panel and pull it out. This is usually done by pulling/prying on one side or the other. Breakers have little hook/heal on one side and slide in freely on the other, you want to pull it out on the side that does not have the hook/heal.
Once you get that breaker out, set it off to one side. Then pull out another breaker that is similar, for example if you pulled out a 20amp, try to pull out another 20amp breaker.
Take the second breaker you pulled out and stick it into the breaker slot that you are having the problem.
Turn on the new breaker you just stuck into the slot.
Go back to the plug and test the wires for power.
IF you have power with the new breaker in place, you have a bad breaker.
IF you still do not have power, you need to work backwards from the breaker to where your power feeds in from, most likely the inverter.
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05-16-2014, 11:03 AM
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LOL Gratz!
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05-16-2014, 11:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DegoRed
LOL Gratz!
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The only problem is that the wires and the thickness of the walls makes it impossible for me to get the plug flush against the wall. I push against the plug with all I got and I am no little guy. You can see that the pervious owner put a wider flange on the plug. Any ideas?
Tom
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05-16-2014, 12:02 PM
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The extension around the GFI , would be factory installed to allow for the increased size. Yes they can be a bear to get back in . remember to power down the coach while your playing with it.
I had to arrange the wiring alongside the GFI with needle nose pliers while playing with mine.
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05-16-2014, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom222
I put a tester on the wires , it indicates power is off the that plug, what now?
Tom
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Tom
As I noted earlier, it was best to isolate the problem as a first step. I.e: check input power to the plug. Now trace that back to the breaker panel to see where you have power. The answer will become apparent when you discover where you have power and where you don't.
Good luck.
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05-16-2014, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom222
Ok, replaced the GFI and this one is not working either, so the problem is at that plug, right?
Now what is there a location that controls that plug?
Also I went ahead and replaced all the fuses that control the inside area.
Help...
Tom
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Tom
Perhaps not.
"Fuses" are usually only for things using 12VDC.
"Circuit breakers" usually protect everything 120VAC, (which includes any/all GFCI receptacle).
If none of the "circuit beakers" in your electrical panel are tripped, check for one, (or more), "pop-out circuit breakers" on the inverter itself.
Mine has 2 on the face, if one is tripped/popped, 1/2 of the 120VAC in my coach goes dead....(pushing a tripped/popped in resets it, restoring the 120VAC).
As Libero said, "a GFI plug will reset without power on it".
Mel
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05-16-2014, 01:32 PM
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Are you getting power to the GFI? Use a circuit tester to check.
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