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Old 04-14-2015, 09:11 AM   #15
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Let me add a little more to this. The toad was wired about 6 years ago and worked until recently and then the problem on the dim right tail and signal light started. I thought the 4 pin plug on the toad was the problem. I then changed the 4 pin plug and connector to a 6 pin plug and connector so I could add a charge line. I checked all connections with a test on both the rv and the toad to make sure it was wired correctly. The dim lights are still there so that's where I am now . Going to try to check the ground directly on the right light it's self and maybe the problem will be solved.
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You stumped me!

The toad tail and signal lights work perfectly when the toad is not hooked up.
The coach tail and signal lights always work perfectly weather the toad is hooked up or not.
The toad left side tail and signal lights work good when connected to the coach.
The toad right side tail and signal lights are only dim when connected to the coach.

Question.
1. When the toad was originally wired, were diodes used to isolate the coach/toad wiring? Maybe relays used?
2. Were separate tail/signal bulbs inserted into the tail light housing?
3. What about the stop lights? are they the same brightness left/right?

The tail light bright/dim is what is puzzling. On my Honda CRV, the tail light has only one wire going to the rear, going through a diode then splitting with one wire going to the right, and one going to the left. To have one bulb brighter than the other is just not likely unless you installed new bulbs in the housings just for towing.

I'm running out of ideas
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FLASH, Pete you were right all along. It was a ground problem. I pulled the tight assembly out and ran a jumper wire from a ground on the hitch on the Discovery to the back of the light socket and I had bright turn signal, tail, and brake light. Now all I have to do is look under the CRV and see if I can where the break is or just run another wire. Thanks for all of your expert advice. I wouldn't have known where to start.
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FLASH, Pete you were right all along. It was a ground problem. I pulled the tight assembly out and ran a jumper wire from a ground on the hitch on the Discovery to the back of the light socket and I had bright turn signal, tail, and brake light. Now all I have to do is look under the CRV and see if I can where the brake is or just run another wire. Thanks for all of your expert advice. I wouldn't have known where to start.
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What happens if you take ground off discovery and touch tow bracket on crv ?
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What happens if you take ground off discovery and touch tow bracket on crv ?
Nothing happens. The only thing not working is the right light socket, I am thinking it's the only one not grounded, unless the ground wire came off inside the socket.
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As Hannibal on the A-team is quoted as saying "I love it when a plan comes together". Great job figuring it out Bud.

When I did my 09 CRV with diodes, I think, but not positive, the ground came off the right light assembly and ran over to the left side where it went into a ground stud along with the right lights. Now if you added separate additional bulbs in the assembly then I don't have a clue how the ground was run.

Anyway great sleuthing job!
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Pete I didn't add an additional bulb. When I pulled the assembly there was a white wire and a black wire going into the socket. I just touched another ground wire from the Discovery to the outside of the socket and all of a sudden it worked. It might have been an accident but it worked.
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