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Old 08-13-2022, 09:05 AM   #1
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Poor Headlights

I've read many posts over the poor headlights on Fleetwood products. I too have the same issue with my 2014 Bounder. Poor voltage to the headlights and poor DEPO knock off Jeep headlights. I know many of you have found solutions over the years and I was wondering who has had success with solutions to this problem and what were they. I can find bits and pieces of what was tried but no posts on actual long term solutions.

My thoughts, replace headlights with good quality aftermarket (OEM are pretty much not available anymore), change from reflector to projector headlight assemblies, change bulbs to higher output halogen, add relays if necessary.

Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Old 08-13-2022, 09:17 AM   #2
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Have you looked into LED bulbs ?

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Lightbulb Halogen bulbs

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I am interested in information about Halogen bulbs.

On one of our trips, we were on a county road in North Dakota and without any ambient light, the headlights were almost useless. After that experience, we, like many others, do not drive on this kind of road after dark.

Is it just a matter of replacing the bulbs with halogens? Or are the lenses also affected?

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I am interested in information about Halogen bulbs.



On one of our trips, we were on a county road in North Dakota and without any ambient light, the headlights were almost useless. After that experience, we, like many others, do not drive on this kind of road after dark.



Is it just a matter of replacing the bulbs with halogens? Or are the lenses also affected?



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Why would you want halogen when leds have roughly 4 times the lumens?
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I changed my '95 Bounder then my '07 Expedition to projectors with LEDs as well as 3 different Jeeps. Use the ID numbers from your existing Bounder headlight lenses and google the numbers to learn exactly what vehicle they're from. My Expedition headlights are a Ford and Nissan min van. I found after market projectors at rockauto.com and H13 LEDs on Amazon (many sources for both). All in, I paid a little more than $150 to convert my Expedition. They're also available as a complete assembly for about $350 each. For my JK and Trailhawk, I had to add decoders for another $40 each to stop the light flicker.
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Why would you want halogen when leds have roughly 4 times the lumens?



Might have 4 times the lumens and look pretty but the housings were designed for halogen bulbs. LEDs will look nice and white but aren't going to throw the light down the road due to the lenses/reflectors being designed for halogens.



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I've read many posts over the poor headlights on Fleetwood products. I too have the same issue with my 2014 Bounder. Poor voltage to the headlights and poor DEPO knock off Jeep headlights. I know many of you have found solutions over the years and I was wondering who has had success with solutions to this problem and what were they. I can find bits and pieces of what was tried but no posts on actual long term solutions.

My thoughts, replace headlights with good quality aftermarket (OEM are pretty much not available anymore), change from reflector to projector headlight assemblies, change bulbs to higher output halogen, add relays if necessary.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Check the voltage at the bulb sockets and decide from there. Relays would be the most economical solution. Changing to higher wattage halogens will probably just melt the sockets. Someone used to make a relay kit but I don't remember who it was.



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I've had some correspondence with Daniel Stern, who is an industry expert on lighting. He states the two main reasons for the poor lighting are the headlight assemblies and the voltage drop. His solution is replace the DEPO assemblies with OEM and add relays to overcome the voltage drop. OEM assemblies are no longer available so I have to look for another solution. Headlight aiming isn't the problem. So, I'm mostly interested in replacing the reflector housing (99-04 Jeep Grand Cherokee, DEPO knock off) with either projector or LED headlight assemblies. According to Daniel, and a comprehensive AAA lighting article, LED will be bright but the reflector lenses weren't designed for LED light so it will be scattered and not focused. If I go with projector I want to stick with Halogen. If I go with LED housings they will have proper LED bulbs. Lots of options on Amazon and other places but who builds a good product with good reflective surfaces? I don't want to replace bad with bad.
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I looked up a '14 Bounder and it seems the headlight itself is behind a clear plastic enclosure.
Is yours frosty or yellowed ?
If so, they can be polished to like new.
My '04 Pace Arrow has a separate glass lens for the head light and I still keep mine polished.

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I switched our halogens on our 2016 Bounder to LEDs. Made a world of difference . Driving at night with the previous set up was outright scary. The LEDs made driving at night much safer There are several posts on here by people that have made the switch
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Might have 4 times the lumens and look pretty but the housings were designed for halogen bulbs. LEDs will look nice and white but aren't going to throw the light down the road due to the lenses/reflectors being designed for halogens.



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Could you please explain the difference in lense/reflector design of Halogen and LED. I'm sure many of us would like to know so we can make the proper decisions with our headlights.

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Rooster…

I actually meant to inquire about LED’s and mistakenly said halogen


…but reading all the responses…I need to do some homework.

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I actually meant to inquire about LED’s and mistakenly said halogen





…but reading all the responses…I need to do some homework.



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This is what I do know I changed mine out a few years back because It was like my headlights weren’t on. Most if not all cars have leds for a reason because they are whiter and throw a better beam, cooler running, with less power. Don’t listen to me and my opinion if you do any kinda of search it will say the same thing. All good flashlights even have leds just a example.
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