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Old 06-09-2020, 10:38 AM   #1
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Powergear Leveling System

I have a 33' Pace Arrow and the Leveling Jacks stopped working as soon as I added fluid. The Jack motor won't start to extend at all. I have checked all fuses, sent the Push Button Assembly and Control Box to M&M and they said everything was working to spec. They even used the Push Button Assembly and Control box on a set of their valves and it works. The Levelers were working fine until I added trans. fluid to the holding tank. The reason I added oil was because of the warning lights flashing. Now The lights are but jacks not working.

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Old 06-09-2020, 10:52 AM   #2
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Welcome to the forum.

What year, make model, is your MH. If its like mine, there is a fuse in the wire bundle near the pump / valve assembly. Follow the wires back from the solenoids, There is a connector this wire bundle plugs into, look very carefully near the connector, as part of the bundle, you'll find a fuse in a holder that has a cover on it.
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Our RV is a 1995 Model,
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Yep that fuse is ok.
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:34 AM   #5
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You should read 12 volts on both sides of that fuse all the time.

Can you post a photo of the control panel so I know what system you have.

On mine, to turn on the control panel, (the red power light) it needs to be in Park (or N), the Parking brake needs to be set, and the engine needs to be running.

You can check to see if the valves are functioning. Have someone hold one of the extend buttons (i.e. rear ). Using a screwdriver, place the metal blade against the solenoids, you should fell the magnetism attract the screwdriver blade when the correct button is pressed.
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I’ll send a photo later this afternoon.
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When you added fluid you bump the wires disconnect got a wire disconnected
it's a work before you added fluid and then quit after you added the fluid you did something
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Yep , check Ed voltage on all three, it ok, when I unplugged one wire at a time and touch contact I can feel it clicking. With engine running I can’t tell where it’s coming from. Motor doesn’t start. But when I put a jumper from + to blue wire on solenoid the motor starts. I have a complete page of things I’ve done with voltage checks. I can’t download it from my phone but will try later this afternoon
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I don’t think so, I checked just to be safe
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But when I put a jumper from + to blue wire on solenoid the motor starts.
Thats a good sign, it says the solenoid and pump motor are ok.

Need to know what system you have (photo of panel).

Is your panel the same as mine? Look at this article and photos. There's also a wiring diagram there that may be similar to yours.

How to raise Power Gear jacks one at a time – 1999 Southwind 35S


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I believe the blue wire is your ground. Sounds like you lost
ground. Trace the circuit to see if this is the problem.
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Hopefully this panel comes through
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We had a similar problem on our '14 Southwind, checked and re-checked and could not find anything.
We eventually traced the problem to a 25 amp in-line fuse high up in the dash behind the speedometer.
The fuse also controlled the chassis blower motor and was not shown on any schematics!
Good luck with your search.
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:05 PM   #14
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I have a 1995 Vision Pace Arrow with a Powergear Leveling System. To start I had flashing lights and an alarm with jacks retracted. After adding transmission fluid the lights and an alarm ceased but now my jacks won’t extend. I drained oil just below float switch to make sure lights and alarm would work (lights and alarm works.)
M&M Electronics tested and verified my control box and touch pad were found to be in working order. They also tested both with a valve assembly at their location and they worked.
Ran a jumper from +12 vdc battery side of motor solenoid to blue wire on solenoid (motor energized).
8 Pin Connector @ control box
1- Ground - black/white

2- Float Switch – brown – 0 vdc @ control box
The actual switch at the pump tank has 13.5vdc

3- Motor solenoid – blue – 0 vdc @ control box - checked at the solenoid and 0 vdc
Checked continuity @ control box to motor solenoid, closed circuit.

4- Dump valve – 13.5vdc @ control box

5- Road side valve – yellow -13.5 vdc @ control box – orange - 13.5 vdc @ valve

6- Curb side valve – orange - 13.5 vdc @ control box - orange - 13.5 vdc @ valve

7- Front valve –violet - 13.5 vdc @ control box - orange - 13.5 vdc @ valve
6 pin connector @ control box
1- Park brake - 13.5 vdc @ control box

2- Neutral safety switch -0 vdc

3- Blank space

4- Engine oil pressure switch - 13.5 vdc @ control box

5- +12 vdc Front breaker panel – 13.5 vdc

6- Neutral safety switch – 0 vdc
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