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12-21-2021, 07:38 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Deming, NM
Posts: 8
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Shower leak behind shower wall
I have a 1994 Limited Edition Fleetwood American Eagle.
The rug in the bedroom abutting the shower stall was wet about a month ago. Might have been wet sooner but I had stuff there and have no idea.
So, I open the shower handle and watched the video about replacing the seal and springs.
After that it still leaked and now was dripping directly underneath outside.
I called Delta and they gave me the part number for the cartridge which I promptly replaced yesterday.
Up until then, it was no problem leaking without the pump being turned off. I have used the shower in the park so it would not trigger a leak.
This morning I replaced the new cartridge with the old one and it is still running out the shower handle and wetting the carpet corner about 8-10 inches area so it's small but not stopping. I have the pump inside turned off so it's working to stop the leaking but when I need water and turn the pump on, boom! it leaks again.
Details so that anyone who cann help me with this quesstion > due to no access from inside or outside other than tearing out walls, can I safely pull out the shower top- (pan is ok-no leaking underneath- in fact, completely dry) so pull out the shower top and correct the lines? Underneath with a light I saw water drip roll down the right side gray line when the pump was still on so It's coming from above. The drain is not the problem.
for the curious - I never owned an rv. I bought this in total ignorance. I had no idea what I was getting and I love it anyway and will keep it and fix as needed because it's worth it. I can't afford a plumber, no rv guy will touch it because Deming is no man's land far from las Cruces and the ones who are here are highly expensive.
If you can help guide me on this I would appreciate it, if you cannot, I will continue to find a way and shower another way and turn the pump off and on until I get it done.
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12-23-2021, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Cen Il.
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So is there a wall behind the shower? If there is you may have to cut section out to access the back side of the shower valve. Not unusual for a patch to be placed over an access hole.
Don’t wait to fix this as moisture/ leak will cause damage if left.
Take care
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12-24-2021, 04:25 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Most Fleetwood products I've seen have a square removable panel in the wall that backs up to the shower that when removed, allows access to the water connections to the shower hot and cold supply lines.
Over time, it is not uncommon for the plastic fittings, elbow or seals to crack or dry rot and leak down the backside of the shower wall.
The last one I fixed it was wetting the carpet in the adjacent bedroom and was also dripping outside the coach behind the passenger rear wheel.
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12-24-2021, 05:29 AM
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Alley Kat, welcome aboard.
The grey tubing water supply is prone to leak as it ages. I would suggest a re-plumb with Pex if at all possible wherever possible as these leaks may/probably will reoccur.
If the leaks are not fixed right away mold and damage to the walls and flooring will occur requiring major repairs, for example wall, cabinet, and subfloor replacement. It really is imperative to repair any leaks immediately.
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12-24-2021, 06:50 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toribk
...Most Fleetwood products I've seen have a square removable panel in the wall that backs up to the shower that when removed, allows access to the water connections to the shower hot and cold supply lines....
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That's what I have. That panel has a mirror on it, which comes off.
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12-24-2021, 11:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Deming, NM
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Thank you for your support and I will update you.
Unless the shower is used, the water doesn't leak. I bought the cartridge to the shower and replaced the old with the new. After screwing it up as in turning the pump on without securing the cartridge- it looked like Niagara Falls. Major panic but I got it all mopped up. An RV repair guy looked at my what is called the rough in and told me it was corroded and said that was the problem. Not knowing what it was supposed to look like, I then called Delta and sent photos and the CSR told me that I need to replace the rough in and she'd send a complimentary one but I have to get the trim myself. I turned off the pumps. Then removed the old rough in plumbing and bought some plugs so that I could use the pumps. I have to select a trim but was waiting until I sent the now useless cartridge back for a refund. That's been done but it's Christmas and come Monday, I'll be ordering it from Amazon. There is no way I can see to get back behind the shower other than pulling out the shower above the pan because I don't want to make holes or tear out walls. The floor under the shower is bone dry so it's not the hoses or drain. I hope the new parts fix it. Nothing else is leaking anywhere.
Thank you for your help. The coach walls are hard as concrete and solid. I hope it's not necessary to pull any out.
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12-28-2021, 07:35 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Deming, New Mexico
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Hi from Deming!
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12-29-2021, 09:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: USA
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Fix it fast
I have a 2004 Newmar and the hoses that connect to the shower handles behind the shower wall where dripping. You can not see them dripping so the water would drip down onto the subfloor. It rotted the subfloor in the bathroom and I needed to replace all the wood. The subfloor is made of INTERIOR grade plywood so it is not water proof. I spaced the shower handles out so that if it drips the water will go down the drain instead of behind the wall onto the subfloor. (see attached photos)
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12-29-2021, 09:21 PM
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Member
Vintage RV Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Grand Junction, Colo
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If the shower valve assy is in a wall that you can get to, you can cut a 12" x 12" square hole in that opposite the valves, that way you can get in to tighten the fittings, if they are leaking. Then get a joint of wood moulding and make a nice frame around the take-out piece and put it back with a couple small screws on each leg, now it looks like a professional attachment
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12-30-2021, 09:26 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Deming, NM
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hI!
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12-30-2021, 09:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Deming, NM
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OMG I hope it's not that! I will consult with a RV repair guy to see what he thinks. On top of all the crap now I hear the pump turn on for a sec then off so I have to see if I need to replace that or if it's a valve thing ( I read up on it a little bit.) thank you for showing what might be going on and I will figure out how to find it. So even though underneath the shower and none of the pipes have wet on them, it may still be leaking? I will check and report what I find out. Although it may take time because I have no clue what I am doing but I know I will figure it out or find help. Thanks!
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12-30-2021, 09:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Deming, NM
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I am waiting for the Delta part called the rough in, to arrive so I can make sure I get the right trim and then turn it all on again to see what happens. Meanwhile I am going to be watching videos! Thanks for your help
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01-26-2022, 08:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Deming, NM
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Shower leak update
To make a long story real short > Delta sent a rough in. I'm so ignorant. I dismissed it as not gonna work. I bought an American Standard and promptly took it back because it was too wide. My neighbor took a look at the Delta and explained what the stops were. So, I re-examined it and test fit it and it worked. Got it in but not before making the opening bigger ( a real mess) and tugging on the hoses to raise it to where it was. Now I have a real bad leak.
The shower faucet is not leaking. Somewhere below it, it is leaking. It was not leaking other than the faucet part before I put the Delta in and I could use the kitchen and bathroom sink but now, I can't use them because its flooding from somewhere but not the kitchen or bathroom sinks.
I am leaving the RV park to return to my property that is for sale so I can take apart the shower. I need to be able to do more because in the park, it's too noticeable that I would be working on it. Major work.
I am going to see if there is an opening behind the mirror in the bedroom wall directly behind the shower like Cat320 says. The whole rig is in Prince Walnut and I really don't want to cut a hole. I would rather remove the sink, pull out the whole shower wall and see what I can do.
On my property, I can still use my home for needy things like showering. I won't use the public one here and I can save money for repairs because there is more to get done. I will let you know how it goes since I am moving tomorrow and should get something accomplished by Sunday. It's scary but if it went in, it's gotta come out. I've been using water from a 3 gallon jug for dishes, bathing, etc. it's not fun but gets the job done.
I really love the coziness of this MH and don't want to leave it for a house just yet. So, whatever it takes to stay in it , I will do.
Thank you all for your kind words of help.
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