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Old 07-29-2020, 06:57 AM   #1
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Question IC-37 HydraLift?

My wife and I will be retiring in about 18 months and hitting the road (FT). At this point I know very little about calculating carrying capacity. So please excuse this newbie question:

Is the IC-37 capable of supporting an 800 lb. BMW-K1600GT motorcycle on a HydraLift? We will also need to flat tow a sub-5000 lb. vehicle.

Or do I need to be looking at something more robust for that purpose?

I don't mind the idea of a 40'+ Tag Axle Class A. But I feel that we will rarely need to sleep more than just the two of us. And the ability to visit length restrictive parks is quite appealing. The maneuverability is also very appealing.
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:46 PM   #2
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There isn't many IC-37 coaches on the road, there is some question as to if they are going to keep them in the Foretravel line up. [Mod Edit]

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There isn't many IC-37 coaches on the road, there is some question as to if they are going to keep them in the Foretravel line up.
Thanks 4T.

My instinct has been that I should be looking at a rig with tag axle anyway. More cargo capacity and ride stability.
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Thanks 4T.

My instinct has been that I should be looking at a rig with tag axle anyway. More cargo capacity and ride stability.
You may want to consider a Newmar Ventana, Dutchstar, or Mountain Aire (depending on your budget). 40 footers with tag axle and 1,500 pound hitch capacity.
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You may want to consider a Newmar Ventana, Dutchstar, or Mountain Aire (depending on your budget). 40 footers with tag axle and 1,500 pound hitch capacity.
Hi Sipester. Thanks for the recommendations, though I'm pretty sure you meant 15k hitch capacity.

I've actually been focusing my research on the Newmar models from Dutch Star through London Aire. The latter is at the very top end of my budget. But I like the idea of the 605 cummins (plenty of horse power and torque). The Essex and King Aire are not on my radar due to cost. Even if I could justify spending that much, I'm not sure we need or care about the additional "bling".

The higher-end ForeTravel models are simply too much for my budget. But I have looked at a few used listings that might be a possibility. If I decide to go that route I'd want to keep aside substantial funds to update tires, batteries, selected electronics, and possibly furniture if needed.

Since my target retirement date is at least 18 months out, I'm going to keep researching. I'm a bit of a techno geek, so I don't want to dip too far into the vintage category. I'm fairly handy, but I'm sure my wife would quickly tire if I were to dive into a never-ending project.
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Hi Sipester. Thanks for the recommendations, though I'm pretty sure you meant 15k hitch capacity.

I've actually been focusing my research on the Newmar models from Dutch Star through London Aire. The latter is at the very top end of my budget. But I like the idea of the 605 cummins (plenty of horse power and torque). The Essex and King Aire are not on my radar due to cost. Even if I could justify spending that much, I'm not sure we need or care about the additional "bling".

The higher-end ForeTravel models are simply too much for my budget. But I have looked at a few used listings that might be a possibility. If I decide to go that route I'd want to keep aside substantial funds to update tires, batteries, selected electronics, and possibly furniture if needed.

Since my target retirement date is at least 18 months out, I'm going to keep researching. I'm a bit of a techno geek, so I don't want to dip too far into the vintage category. I'm fairly handy, but I'm sure my wife would quickly tire if I were to dive into a never-ending project.
I did mean "hitch capacity" based on your need for the hydralift (I recognize the towing capacity for all those is 15,000 pounds). I'm not aware of any single axle coach (other than a Super C) that has a hitch capacity of more than 1,000. It appears that the weight of the hydralift and motorcycle would be more than 1,000. If you are looking for a non-45 foot class A then I think those 3 Newmar's are your only option.

If you don't mind going to 45 feet, then the London Aire definitely has some great benefits (Entegra Cornerstone might be another option).
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I did mean "hitch capacity" based on your need for the hydralift (I recognize the towing capacity for all those is 15,000 pounds). I'm not aware of any single axle coach (other than a Super C) that has a hitch capacity of more than 1,000. It appears that the weight of the hydralift and motorcycle would be more than 1,000. If you are looking for a non-45 foot class A then I think those 3 Newmar's are your only option.

If you don't mind going to 45 feet, then the London Aire definitely has some great benefits (Entegra Cornerstone might be another option).
Although I haven't yet gotten around to thoroughly researching the HydraLift yet, I was under the impression that it is welded into the chassis frame rails somehow. That, I guess, means it may not be strictly tied to the hitch tongue weight (?). But I think you are correct in suggesting that a tag axle would be required, or at least desirable, for a class A coach.

I've also looked at the SuperC rigs (e.g. Renegade). Those seem to be more than capable of handling the additional angular load, not to mention the incredible towing capacity (not that I would ever be pulling a stacker trailer). I'm just not sure my DW would be happy about the ergonomics of a truck chassis/cab. Personally, I think I might even prefer a SuperC, from a maintenance perspective (as well as the "knarly" form factor). She cares more about the living space, the integration of the cab into that space, and the view from the cockpit. And frankly, it is hard to argue against the superior basement storage and turning radius available on the larger Class A rigs.

Decisions, decisions. There are so many tempting alternatives!
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