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Old 09-25-2014, 01:50 PM   #1
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Shore Power vs Battery Power

2002 Class C Gulf Stream Ultra: The interior lights and electrical plugs do not work when the coach battery has been removed, even though the RV is plugged into shore power. Is this correct?
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Put the batteries back in and try it. Even if they're weak. I'd be interested to hear what happens
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:51 PM   #3
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Usually your converter/charger is wired to power the house circuits without batteries, but it might be need batteries to operate properly. As [B]amieBoyle[/B], said, try it. Why do you want to power without batteries?
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Do not operate the coach without batteries. It is very hard on the converter charger to do so. There could be any number of reasons the unit will not have 12 vdc without the batteries in place and the unit plugged into shore power. You should however have 120vac to the receptacles. This is where you need to verify you in fact have power into the coach (check transfer switch) for power in and out to distribution panel if all the circuit breakers look good. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Do not operate the coach without batteries. It is very hard on the converter charger to do so. There could be any number of reasons the unit will not have 12 vdc without the batteries in place and the unit plugged into shore power. You should however have 120vac to the receptacles. This is where you need to verify you in fact have power into the coach (check transfer switch) for power in and out to distribution panel if all the circuit breakers look good. Good luck and keep us posted.
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In most cases 120 volt outlets have nothing to do with the battery, I can think of only one exception and I am a long way from sure on that.

Now lights, fans, water pumps, 12 volt outlets and such... Even AC, Fridge, furnace (people heater) and water heater all need 12 volts for control operations... But that's all.
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In most cases 120 volt outlets have nothing to do with the battery, I can think of only one exception and I am a long way from sure on that.

Now lights, fans, water pumps, 12 volt outlets and such... Even AC, Fridge, furnace (people heater) and water heater all need 12 volts for control operations... But that's all.
The OP asked about a 2002 model so this might not apply. But the more I work with what we do in system design for engine and vehicle controls the more I recognize it's hard to be definitive. For example at one time it was possible to be fairly clear that the keyswitch shut off most power on a vehicle. We now on vehicles, just like a PC, a "soft off" on the key. Meaning we leave power on to some things temporarily or all the time even with key off.

My point in that is that the systems are more complex.

Another real world example is on my 2014 Bounder. I (unintentionally) ran all of the batteries down....way down. When reconnecting AC I found outlets not working. Without a lot better info from FW I can only guess but I believe the PowerSurge controller works directly off of 12V and if that is messed up (low or recovering) it will not switch AC "on" correctly.

So like I say, the more I learn, the less I feel confident in giving advice.

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