Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE OWNER'S CORNER FORUMS > Gulf Stream Owner's Forum
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-06-2009, 04:40 PM   #1
Member
 
50 kw's Avatar
 
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: N. Georgia
Posts: 32
When gasoline runs out

I had thought that when running the genset and it stopped due to lack of gasoline there was fuel in the tank to start the chassis engine and go get more. Not so! When the Genset stopped the chassis engine also would not start. After hauling in gasoline both now starts without delay.

Is this normal or was the tank connections installed wrong?

The fuel gauge indicated that there was a little less than 1/4 tank left when the engines would not start.
__________________
2006 Gulfstream Sunvoyager model 8351 MXG, Jeep Wrangler
50 kw is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 05-06-2009, 05:57 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 632
The genset feed is supposed to leave a quarter tank when it runs dry. That requires a separate tank feed for the genset completely independent of the vehicle engine.

But.

I have a B-Van where the genset feed was tapped into the rear fuel tank line. That means the genset draws fuel through the tank pump and feeds off the same draw as the engine fuel supply. It could run the tank dry.

I have also found that some mechanics are not familiar with this (which may be a reason for improper feeds).

I am going to have to drop the tank to see if it has the right feeds and perhaps purchase the right one if it doesn't. That might be interesting if the parts dude isn't up to speed on these things.
BryanL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 02:38 AM   #3
Moderator Emeritus
 
RV Wizard's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
Posts: 12,061
Quote:
Originally Posted by 50 kw View Post
I had thought that when running the genset and it stopped due to lack of gasoline there was fuel in the tank to start the chassis engine and go get more. Not so! When the Genset stopped the chassis engine also would not start. After hauling in gasoline both now starts without delay.

Is this normal or was the tank connections installed wrong?

The fuel gauge indicated that there was a little less than 1/4 tank left when the engines would not start.

Give us the year, make and model of your coach.
__________________
Mike, RVIA & RVSA Certified Master RV Technician
Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
RV Wizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 10:43 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
wa8yxm's Avatar
 
Damon Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,023
it may be that the prior owner added the genny or t-ed it into the main fuel line
__________________
Home is where I park it!
wa8yxm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 09:01 PM   #5
Member
 
50 kw's Avatar
 
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: N. Georgia
Posts: 32
When the Genset quit the tank had about 1/4 tank of fuel left according to the fuel gauge. The year, make etc should be in my signature now. This unit came directly from the manufacturer.
One additional note: I have always been able to smell a light smell of gasoline around the rear of the RV. The smell comes and goes.
__________________
2006 Gulfstream Sunvoyager model 8351 MXG, Jeep Wrangler
50 kw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 02:41 AM   #6
Moderator Emeritus
 
RV Wizard's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
Posts: 12,061
Have you ever had the unit in for generator service? Or for service that might involve the fuel tank such as fuel delivery to the drive engine? Some one may have changed the setup and you may have a line that is now open giving you the gasoline odor at times.
__________________
Mike, RVIA & RVSA Certified Master RV Technician
Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
RV Wizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 07:13 AM   #7
Member
 
50 kw's Avatar
 
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: N. Georgia
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by RV Wizard View Post
Have you ever had the unit in for generator service? Or for service that might involve the fuel tank such as fuel delivery to the drive engine? Some one may have changed the setup and you may have a line that is now open giving you the gasoline odor at times.

There has been no service performed on this RV. It only has 1500 miles on it.
__________________
2006 Gulfstream Sunvoyager model 8351 MXG, Jeep Wrangler
50 kw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 07:47 AM   #8
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5
I just purchased a new 2009 Fleetwood Terra and during pickup was told that the generator would not run if the fuel tank went below 1/4. I am not sure if this is standard but that is how it is on mine.

Regards

Mark
MarkLI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2009, 02:59 AM   #9
Moderator Emeritus
 
RV Wizard's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
Posts: 12,061
If you are not comfortable at dropping the fuel tank and inspecting the situation then I would recommend you have a qualified professional do this for you. You should not be smelling fuel and is a safety issue that should not be ignored.
__________________
Mike, RVIA & RVSA Certified Master RV Technician
Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
RV Wizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2009, 08:54 PM   #10
Member
 
50 kw's Avatar
 
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: N. Georgia
Posts: 32
Well the RV is in the shop now for this problem as well as some others that have up. I will let you know what they find. Whatever is found it happened at the factory or the dealer. No service since purchase.

More later.
__________________
2006 Gulfstream Sunvoyager model 8351 MXG, Jeep Wrangler
50 kw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2009, 02:43 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
wa8yxm's Avatar
 
Damon Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,023
Normally on a Class A the generator fuel pickup is around 1/4 tank, the main engine pickup is closer to "Empty"

However,,, the key word in this is "Normally" mistakes do happen and some times they do not do it that way at all.
__________________
Home is where I park it!
wa8yxm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2009, 07:59 PM   #12
Member
 
50 kw's Avatar
 
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: N. Georgia
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by RV Wizard View Post
If you are not comfortable at dropping the fuel tank and inspecting the situation then I would recommend you have a qualified professional do this for you. You should not be smelling fuel and is a safety issue that should not be ignored.
I received some feedback from the service dept. today. The manager said that it is normal to smell gasoline at the rear of a Ford RV due to a fuel vent from the engine that Fords vents to the rear??????????

2. The fuel gauge is likely bad giving a incorrect reading. $800.00 to replace.

This does not explain why when the Generator is out of fuel the chassis is also.

Does any one have first hand information on what GS does on their gas tanks? Does the generator stop first and then the chassis or is it one out all out.

Thanks for any information you may have.
__________________
2006 Gulfstream Sunvoyager model 8351 MXG, Jeep Wrangler
50 kw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2009, 02:20 AM   #13
Moderator Emeritus
 
RV Wizard's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
Posts: 12,061
Your scenario is not a normal Gulf Stream or any other manufacturer standard. Something has been changed from original design and install.
__________________
Mike, RVIA & RVSA Certified Master RV Technician
Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
RV Wizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2009, 08:56 PM   #14
Member
 
50 kw's Avatar
 
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: N. Georgia
Posts: 32
Well I got my RV back this afternoon. As it turns out the hoses from the gas tank were reversed. The short one was feeding the chassis and the long one was feeding the genset. This had to have happened at the factory because this is the first time this unit has been serviced.

Anyway all is repaired now so DW and I can get ready for our first trip on the road. We are looking forward to it. I think my wife is more excited than I am.

Thanks for all the help with this problem.
__________________
2006 Gulfstream Sunvoyager model 8351 MXG, Jeep Wrangler
50 kw is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Diesel vs Gasoline Price bigfish iRV2.com General Discussion 14 08-02-2008 11:48 AM
Water pump runs when the water runs out Bruce and Jenna RV Systems & Appliances 9 04-28-2008 09:06 AM
Generator runs out of fuel tropical36 MH-General Discussions & Problems 2 01-08-2008 12:18 PM
20% Ethanol Gasoline for Minnesota DonavonP Workhorse and Chevrolet Chassis Motorhome Forum 4 07-23-2005 03:43 PM
gasoline on tap zetron Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. 1 06-30-2005 05:04 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.