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04-05-2020, 02:32 PM
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Broken bedroom pocket door
While driving through town, I heard some banging noise by the rear bedroom. I pulled over and saw that one of my two piece sliding pocket doors was split in half. See pictures below!
My first thought was to try and glue it together with some big clamps. Then I remembered that I am not that good at finish carpentry. Then I thought, I will just buy another one. But that might be too expensive, and where would I find a match on that finish? Also, I am not even sure how to take it off of the hanging glider.
So, I decided to share it with you all, and hope someone has a solution!
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04-05-2020, 02:39 PM
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I have no idea why the pictures attached sideways. And I don't know how to fix it!
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04-05-2020, 03:52 PM
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I fixed the orientation issue. This site isn't smart enough to know how the pics were taken. If you take a photo in landscape (horizontally), the page will show it correctly.
The pocket sliding doors appear to be not well designed, I saw a 07 Intrigue which had exactly the same problem, and the doors were being laid on the bed . There was a post you may search that the owner did some mods and fixed the problem.
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04-05-2020, 05:27 PM
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I had a similar problem with one of mine when I had my Allure. I removed the door, and using some wooden dowels, glued it back together. It held up well.
If you are not comfortable doing that, many shops that do custom millwork will do the repair. Or you can let them make a new door using your door as a pattern. It is cherry and matching it is pretty easy. I made some accessories for my coach with cherry stained with Minwax cherry stain. It matched perfectly.
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04-05-2020, 06:12 PM
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Thanks for the ideas. I was able to fit it back together, and it almost looks the same as before, except for a few cracks.
I noticed that all of the doors, on each backside, have the panels attached to the frame using only very small brads. No glue was used on that portion of the door. Maybe glue could not be used because of the difference in expansion and contraction between the hard frame and the panels? Just guessing about that one.
Here are a few pictures that show the brads on different doors.
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04-05-2020, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by efstewart
I noticed that all of the doors, on each backside, have the panels attached to the frame using only very small brads. No glue was used on that portion of the door. Maybe glue could not be used because of the difference in expansion and contraction between the hard frame and the panels? Just guessing about that one.
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You're right. Panels are left to "float" within the framing of the door to allow for expansion when humid and shrinking when dry. But the door framing should be built with mortise and tenon or other such techniques for strength. My doors have mirrors on one side and raised panels on the other. Perhaps the mirror is structural?!
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04-05-2020, 09:37 PM
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Those small brads (about 1/2 inch) were applied using a finish nail gun. I am going to try and put them back in, and then glue together the split wood frame around the frame area. I don't have a finish gun, so, I need to try something else. Not sure yet!
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04-05-2020, 11:37 PM
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I would use a good wood glue. Small air powered nail guns are cheap at harbor freight.
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04-09-2020, 11:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by efstewart
Those small brads (about 1/2 inch) were applied using a finish nail gun. I am going to try and put them back in, and then glue together the split wood frame around the frame area. I don't have a finish gun, so, I need to try something else. Not sure yet!
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DEFF lacquer satin spray can. sand with 400 or finer between coats. The sun will do the match.
For a few small brads just set them and set clearance with a small nail set.
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04-10-2020, 11:46 PM
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Well, I got it done with wood glue and the original brads. The two jagged door pieces went together very easily. I used clamps to hold it during the drying process. You have to look real close to notice a few imperfections.
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04-12-2020, 01:32 AM
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Mr Stewart, you’re right about why recessed panels are normally dry fit, but in your case you have few options. Consider this fix.
Remove the door. Go to a hobby shop and get a bottle of THIN CA, a small bottle of accelerator and a few plastic capillary tube spouts. Get 3 nylon clamps with tensioning ratchets, some exam gloves.
Using an Exacto knife with new blades carefully clean out the crack and panel pocket. Use compressed air to blow everything away. Then get a few small finishing nails and drill holes the diameter of these nails which will become your dowels. Nip the heads off the nails so they’re about an inch long. Drill a number of small holes identical to the nail diameter in the door frames, put the nails in the holes, sharp point out, and drop on a tiny dot of CA. Lay the door flat and with edges PERFECTLY ALIGNED mark to broken piece with the mail points (tap with hammer), separate, drill holes where the nail indentations match. Test fit. Check for perfect fit and alignment. Squeeze the door together using the nylon clamp straps. Check alignment and foot again. Then open the CA, fit the capillary tube spout to the tip, squeeze out a bit of CA onto a bit of cardboard so you know what a tiny bead looks like and carefully apply the CA to the ENTIRE crack including the floating panel edge leaving the other three sides to float.
BE CAREFUL. You can easily glue your fingers to the door. If you get CA in your eyes, you'll be probably blind. Wear a head lamp and glasses. Thin CA will penetrate crack you can’t see which is what makes the stuff so great. You may have to go over the cracks several times, but you can see what you need to if you wear a head light. Spray with accelerator and wipe overspray immediately. Using you Exacto knife with a new blade, scrape along the crack to remove any CA that stands proud. Then your done. You won't see a crack. Let things cure for a day, rehang the door. This job is way easier than it may sound to you. Good luck.
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04-12-2020, 09:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by efstewart
Well, I got it done with wood glue and the original brads. The two jagged door pieces went together very easily. I used clamps to hold it during the drying process. You have to look real close to notice a few imperfections.
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Nice work getting it done.
Did you just glue the pieces back together and then utilize the brads as it was before it broke or did you set it with glue there as well?
greg
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