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Old 01-24-2021, 11:06 PM   #1
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Door switch going bad stair in and out when driving

So my new side view cameras have already save me big time. I left Friday for a 26 day trip, heading up I 70 toward Frederic MD, and my stairs start going out, than in, than out then in, but not in rhythm but somewhat random. They never stay out for more then a second, but that is 1 second to long. So I pull over and unhook the step motor and head on my way. Once I get to my 1st overnight I re hook the motor and start playing with and finally jiggling the switch in the door sure enough it is going bad and will randomly send the stairs out and in when jiggled in a certain way like driving down the road. The next day I pull the switch out and spray it with contact cleaner, but there is definitely a lose connection. It is a 3 connection momentary switch, I found a 2 connector plastic one at Tractor Supply and have been googling a 3 pole switch with out much success ( I think I found a 120V on at Granger, but nothing in 12V)

A does any one know where to source this switch, no number on it just 0041 MEXICO?

B What is the 3rd wire for? it also controls the stair well light, but I do not understand why you need a 3rd wire for that? and I want to get the correct switch with the correct connectors?

Any help ASAP would be appreciated, because getting out of the coach with no step sucks, and crawling under to disconnect/reconnect the motor isn't much better. I could wire in a disconnect switch, but would prefer to solve the door switch problem...
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Old 01-25-2021, 02:16 AM   #2
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Any info on the step manufacturer ?

The info I have for Kwikee steps switches doesn't show a switch with wiring, attached, only connectors.
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could be a revers polarity switch. One position runs the motor clockwise and the other runs it counter clockwise.
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Old 01-25-2021, 06:01 AM   #4
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I believe you are looking for an SPDT switch. This switch https://www.allelectronics.com/item/...-button/1.html might work..
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Yes Kwikee


and the switches in the owners manual I have seem to show a 2 connector switch. The manual is non specific to my stair model however.
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OP, do you have an air seal on the door of the coach?
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OP, do you have an air seal on the door of the coach?



pretty sure not. it sometimes whistles going down the road depending on wind speed and direction.
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Contact Kwikee or carry it to a electronic supply house. The counter folks can match it up.
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OP,
Wiring diagram for a 2000 Affinity shows a connection to the third wire on the switch going to an air seal solenoid. Otherwise, according to the diagram, there should be only 2 wires connected. The end of the switch with two wires has the common connection and the air seal solenoid connection. The single wire at the other end goes to the control board and step light.

You need to get into contact with someone with your year and model coach for the best information.

I believe I've read on the forum that Kwikee does not have that switch but has one similar but you might need a new control board for the steps. It is time to search the forum to find out more about the switch.
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Plunger Switch

What you are looking for is a plunger or range door switch. I do not think it is a lot of current, but you have to mind that it is DC you are dealing with. DC is typically harder to switch so you need it rated for DC.
Here is one source, usually the cheapest and good for a lot of parts. I too would recommend you call Kwikee for their thoughts.
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Replaced this switch on our 2005 Allure when steps developed a mind of their own

It is also used to extinguish the 'steps extended' warning lamp on the dash

The switch pictured is made by Carling - it is a momentary on switch ie: operates only when pressed - there are two sorts - you need the non-latching one

These switches are also used by musicians in stomp boxes

Got mine off ebay - search CARLING SPDT FOOT SWITCH

Before spending money, just check that the addition of a spacer to ensure the button is being adequately depressed is not just the problem - I had to install such a spacer when I replaced ours

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Replaced this switch on our 2005 Allure when steps developed a mind of their own

It is also used to extinguish the 'steps extended' warning lamp on the dash

The switch pictured is made by Carling - it is a momentary on switch ie: operates only when pressed - there are two sorts - you need the non-latching one

These switches are also used by musicians in stomp boxes

Got mine off ebay - search CARLING SPDT FOOT SWITCH

Before spending money, just check that the addition of a spacer to ensure the button is being adequately depressed is not just the problem - I had to install such a spacer when I replaced ours

Happy to expand further if needed

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Very helpful thanks.

So are the 2 connections on the same end the same connection, just a y out of the switch? And isnít that something I could do myself if I used one with 2 poles? I found this one, with 3 solder connections. Does it look right, or am I missing something.

https://www.amplifiedparts.com/produ...ing-112-p-spdt
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IanSmith-UK indicated that's a SPDT momentary switch making a perfect sense. It controls two directions of the step movement - in and out, so you need to connect three wires exactly as how they were connected. You can measure the internal connections with an ohm meter so to determne the in from the outs.
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IanSmith-UK indicated that's a SPDT momentary switch making a perfect sense. It controls two directions of the step movement - in and out, so you need to connect three wires exactly as how they were connected. You can measure the internal connections with an ohm meter so to determne the in from the outs.
So that I understand this switch. 1 hot in and the 2 hot outs 1 in each of the 2 positions ( in and out) but only one at a time correct?

Does the switch I found provide that?
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