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Heisenberg · 01-13-2014, 05:55 PM

New guy hoping for a little help in sorting out some confusion that I encountered on my new purchase. Last night I made a deal on a 1998 Intrigue 36 with the 325 Cummins. I have read that a slide was an option in 1998, however this coach does not have a slide.

Nada shows the choices for assessing value as shown here:

Intrigue Series

Motor Home (Class A) Queen Bed Yes M-325hp 36' $15,150

Motor Home (Class A) Queen Bed Yes M-325hp-Great Room 36' $30,840

Nada does not show any of the 1998 Intrigue's with a slide, however the non great room model is valued at roughly half of the value.

The dealer I picked up this coach from insists that it is a great room model, but I cant find anything that indicates one way or the other.

Any thoughts on this?

B Bob · 01-13-2014, 06:27 PM

It must be a Great Room filled with gold to double the value. My guess is something is wrong on terms. I cannot believe you can buy a 1998 Intrigue for 15,000. Sounds too low to me. It has been a couple of years since I was coach shopping but short Intrigues were going for a more like 50 with a slide in 2009.

Call Country Coach in Junction City and ask them.

dons2346 · 01-14-2014, 10:23 AM

All I can say is, NADA sucks. They straight line depreciation

deandec · 01-14-2014, 11:15 AM

To have a slideout installed aftermarket the cost would be @ $15,000 and up. (Morrison's VIP in Fresno area).

RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Any dealings with Morrison's V.I.P. in Fresno, Ca.?

So valuation difference might be supportable. Actual values seem low to me.

Heisenberg · 01-14-2014, 07:18 PM

Thanks for the input guys. Today I called Country Coach and found out that the great room option is a larger 2'-6"slide which has windows on the ends of the slide, as opposed to the smaller 1'-11" slide with no side windows.

This information makes my model a non "great room" coach- which Nada Values around $15,000-$18,000 with options.

So my revised question to my new best friends here

is, would it be wise to pay about double what the Nada value is for this coach?

This is my first coach, and anticipate selling it in a few years to upgrade(I know my wife). I will likely be facing this issue with a new buyer.

osok · 01-14-2014, 07:45 PM

I would not pay double NADA. Walk away and see if dealer will call you back with lower price. Only time I payed double NADA was on girlfriends, and that was not a fair deal.

dons2346 · 01-14-2014, 09:18 PM

This is what I see on NADA for a 36' Great Room Intrigue. 1998 Country Coach Intrigue Series M-300hp-Great Room 36' Standard Equipment, Prices & Specs - NADAguides

smlranger · 01-15-2014, 08:43 AM

You should be able to get the coach for less than NADA low retail, much lower.

Heisenberg · 01-15-2014, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smlranger

You should be able to get the coach for less than NADA low retail, much lower.

That's what I was thinking.

However, I have not seen a diesel pusher motor home anywhere for less than $20,000. The ones in the $20,000 range have been complete garbage.

I'll be making up my mind today. I'm leaning toward paying the money, it's a pretty nice rig.

WheelingIt · 01-15-2014, 12:31 PM

If you're going to pay the higher $$ I would want to negotiate some value into the deal...for example a free multi-year warranty on the coach, guarantee to pay all repairs in the first few months, free installation on some options etc. lots of ways to negotiate extra, but I'd want to be sure of the quality (and the guaranteed repairs would cover that). The worst thing would be to pay top $$ for the coach and then run into repairs right away. Just coz she looks good on the outside doesn't mean all the innards are in top condition. Good luck! She sure does look pretty!

smlranger · 01-15-2014, 12:49 PM

I agree with the previous post. It is probably true that there are few really DP's around for $20K or less that are still nice. And, CC is a solid coach. If you do pay more than NADA and go to sell or trade later, you will likely not find another buyer willing to do the same.

I would at least want new tires, new batteries, a full chassis service (oil, filters, fuel filters, hydraulic filters, air dryer serviced, chassis lube, genset fully serviced, etc. What about belts and hoses at that age?

Even with my low mileage 2007 one owner Allure, I dropped $1,500 on miscellaneous chassis stuff after the dealer put on new tires and did much of the basic chassis service.

I would have an oil analysis done and maybe have a qualified diesel mechanic look over the running gear.

If the dealer won't do these things at their expense, I would want to negotiate the price down to accomodate the fact that you will have to do it.

SPA48 · 01-15-2014, 12:55 PM

Just my opinion but I think you are going to be sorry that you don't have the slides---for room and after you really get into RVING!!!!! most will tell that after buying a non-slide RV----also after you get down the road of traveling and may want a larger or newer rig---the value won't be there for a non-slide----my O would be get atlease two slides!!!!! people come in all different types so I'm only giving you what I have seen in the last 20 years that I have been RVing and when I decided to make a move for a new 2006 I thought I had all the goodies-----wong---but that's the way it is---and am happy with what I got!!!!! Good luck which ever way you go!!!! but there is some great deals out there!!!!!

Steve

deandec · 01-15-2014, 03:13 PM

Non slide has a small market compared to units with slide.

We would prefer to have some slides, but remain happy with our fully functional non slide rig.

If you can buy an upscale non-slide rig that has been cared for at the $20,000 price, it should be considered.

Many of the folks who counsel for slides as opposed to your target rig are spending a third of $20,000 or more in annual loss in value (depreciation). I suspect the $20,000 rig will depreciate much more slowly.

Heisenberg · 01-15-2014, 11:45 PM

Thanks for all the input. I ended up doing the deal, got out the door with new tires, tax and license and a due bill to fix the non functional furnace for less than what they were asking.

It ran perfect on the way home, and we're happy with it. I'm a DIY guy, so I will be learning how to service most everything myself.

Hopefully, when it comes time to sell, I can find a buyer that appreciates a well built coach like I do. I saw some real crap that was priced higher than this one during my search.

Cheers, and thanks again.

Mike