Just Got My New Michelin 365s

[Mr_D]

I thought they were on back order and you had to wait for production? That certainly isn't true if they are a year old now!

[srh]

Originally Posted by Mr_D

I thought they were on back order and you had to wait for production? That certainly isn't true if they are a year old now!

They told me when you order tires anything up to three years is considered new and has the same warranty. It starts on the day of the installation. I'll hold on to my sales papers. But, as you said, it is not right. Unfortunately, there is not much that I can do at this time.
Thanks, Mr_D!

[Smitty77]

Just ordered 6 Bridgestone R268 Escopia's. The gent that was helping me on this purchase, and another one at different shop that I called on BF Goodrich ST230's - both said the same thing about tires in warehouses don't age, and not to worry about a 1 1/2 year old tires. My answer was that I did not share this opinion, and that for my spend $$ I would need tires with Born On Dates of under 6 months old.

One shop said sorry, no guarantee. The other shop said the same thing, but, did say they would make a request to the distributor to please send as young as tires as possible. I need tires, and I want the no sales tax here in Oregon. And also, as mentioned in another thread, I was advised to try and get one of the newer tires technology that are more Energy Efficient rated, ones with lower Rolling Resistance. So, I went with the shop that could get the R268's.

When I get to the shop in 3 or so weeks to do the install, I'll check the dates. If not young enough, I'll say see you later. They do have a $1K deposit, but I will dispute this with my credit card company if needed. My existing tires are 5 1/2 - 6 years old now, and I pulled up the purchase by a year to provide comfort to my DW! But, I can choose to wait a few months if needed!

Best to all,
Smitty

[srh]

Originally Posted by Smitty77

Just ordered 6 Bridgestone R268 Escopia's. The gent that was helping me on this purchase, and another one at different shop that I called on BF Goodrich ST230's - both said the same thing about tires in warehouses don't age, and not to worry about a 1 1/2 year old tires. My answer was that I did not share this opinion, and that for my spend $$ I would need tires with Born On Dates of under 6 months old.

One shop said sorry, no guarantee. The other shop said the same thing, but, did say they would make a request to the distributor to please send as young as tires as possible. I need tires, and I want the no sales tax here in Oregon. And also, as mentioned in another thread, I was advised to try and get one of the newer tires technology that are more Energy Efficient rated, ones with lower Rolling Resistance. So, I went with the shop that could get the R268's.

When I get to the shop in 3 or so weeks to do the install, I'll check the dates. If not young enough, I'll say see you later. They do have a $1K deposit, but I will dispute this with my credit card company if needed. My existing tires are 5 1/2 - 6 years old now, and I pulled up the purchase by a year to provide comfort to my DW! But, I can choose to wait a few months if needed!

Best to all,
Smitty

Great approach! I wish I had done that. It never even crossed my mind that after waiting 8 weeks I would get tires that are over a year old! O'well, live and learn!
Thanks for the update!

[MarkofSJC]

365 Upgrade? I thought that was done for only to accommodate the 20k upgraded front axial that CC updated with the 2008 models (rear upgraded tag, too I believe). I'm not sure what benefit it would do to just upgrade the tires ~ except better ride because of reduced required pressure? What am I missing?

[srh]

Originally Posted by MarkofSJC

365 Upgrade? I thought that was done for only to accommodate the 20k upgraded front axial that CC updated with the 2008 models (rear upgraded tag, too I believe). I'm not sure what benefit it would do to just upgrade the tires ~ except better ride because of reduced required pressure? What am I missing?

I don't know about the updated axle, but I had to have my 315/R80/22.5 pressure to 130 psi using the Michelin chart and my front axle weight. Now, I can have my steer at 105 psi - yes, better ride is why I chose to do it.

[Mr_D]

The change to the 365/70 front tires and higher rated axle (20,000#) was done at #6986 and up on all '09 Magna's and Affinities. Ours is #6999.

[IASM]

Update
Got my tires today with a build date of 38-15 on one and 37-15 on the other so that makes them two to three weeks old.
As far as why the upgrade?
Its all about weight
My axle with fuel runs around 17800lbs single passenger .
315s are good for 9090 X 2 is 18180
365s are good for 10500 x 2 is 21000lbs
Im going from no safety margin to a comfortable margin
The ride may be better but I would only recommend these tires if your running the weights. There could be hassle with onroad service since this size is so scarce .

[Smitty77]

Originally Posted by IASM

Update
Got my tires today with a build date of 38-15 on one and 37-15 on the other so that makes them two to three weeks old.
As far as why the upgrade?
Its all about weight
My axle with fuel runs around 17800lbs single passenger .
315s are good for 9090 X 2 is 18180
365s are good for 10500 x 2 is 21000lbs
Im going from no safety margin to a comfortable margin
The ride may be better but I would only recommend these tires if your running the weights. There could be hassle with onroad service since this size is so scarce .

Congrats on the young new shoes! The added safety margin is a nice feeling. I may have missed it, but did the Load Range remain the same between the two sizes, or did the 365's bump you up a Load Range level too?

Hope they ride nice for you!
Smitty

[IASM]

Hi Smitty
I don't think I understand your question regarding load range.

[Steve Ownby]

Originally Posted by IASM

Update
Got my tires today with a build date of 38-15 on one and 37-15 on the other so that makes them two to three weeks old.
As far as why the upgrade?
Its all about weight
My axle with fuel runs around 17800lbs single passenger .
315s are good for 9090 X 2 is 18180
365s are good for 10500 x 2 is 21000lbs
Im going from no safety margin to a comfortable margin
The ride may be better but I would only recommend these tires if your running the weights. There could be hassle with onroad service since this size is so scarce .

Did you have to up grade to 10.5" wheels?


Steve Ownby
Full time since '07

[IASM]

Alcoa 803601 at around $430 each.

[srh]

Originally Posted by IASM

Update
Got my tires today with a build date of 38-15 on one and 37-15 on the other so that makes them two to three weeks old.
As far as why the upgrade?
Its all about weight
My axle with fuel runs around 17800lbs single passenger .
315s are good for 9090 X 2 is 18180
365s are good for 10500 x 2 is 21000lbs
Im going from no safety margin to a comfortable margin
The ride may be better but I would only recommend these tires if your running the weights. There could be hassle with onroad service since this size is so scarce .

IASM: Congratulations! So glad for you, you really helped me out when I was searching for answers when I did mine - I appreciate that!

All the best!

[Smitty77]

Originally Posted by IASM

Hi Smitty
I don't think I understand your question regarding load range.

When I was thinking of upsizing my 12R 22.5 to 315/80 22.5, the only Michelin tire I could use were the XZA2's. They existing 12R 22.5 are Load Range H tires (Load Range is ties into how much weight the tires are rated to handle.), the 315/80 22.5 tires were Load Range L - which is a pretty robust tire!

This was going not to a 8.25" rim, and after some input from various sources, I elected to remain with the 12R 22.5 tires on the front end.

No big deal, was just curious if you also jumped on your Load Range change too.

Keep the rubber on the ground!
Smitty