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Old 01-25-2015, 05:24 PM   #29
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You could look into replacing the macerator unit with a different throne.

We were told we had a 60 Grey and 60 Black in our 04 Allure. I had a pump from Grey to Black added, as 60 Black with a nom macerator throne, would not be filling up near as fast as our Grey. It was while reviewing the pump installation with the tech, that I noted that the Black seemed to be smaller then the Grey. A bit more investigation revealed that the specific model Allure we had, the High Cascade, had only a 40 gallon Black... (We still are able to shift some Grey to Black, but not near as much added Grey capacity that I hoped for. I figured about 85-90 gallon Grey capacity - reality is I probably have 70-75 Grey capacity now. And this is practicing what we call full Boondocking mode habits! We went 6 full days in Canada on our way to Alaska, and were just about maxed out on both Grey and Black.

Great looking coach, and I also liked the Premier Wanderlodge, even with one slide only...

My opinion on all cash vs partial financing, is to conserve the annuities. Finance interest rates are so low, and a little bit of help with Schedule A makes it even lower. You always have the annuities available to dip into and pay it off - if that ever becomes important for to you. But, I've for sure learned that we all don't have the same perceptions on how and where to use our money! And that is OK...

Good luck on your ongoing due diligence,
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Our Magna has a 105 gal fresh water and 69 gal gray and black tanks. We can usually go a couple of weeks or more between Black tank dumps.
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Yep, 60 and 60 on the waste tanks and about 95 on the fresh is what I'm finding Our DSDP has 60 grey, 40 black and 105 fresh so kind of close. The macerator toilets do use more water though.
And yes, I'm leaning toward financing it as the annuity pays 5% forever and the yearly payout wound make the payments and we'd still have the principle left.
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Have you given up hope on the DS 4375? Not sure if you had seen that Newmar has recently built one and posted photos on their Facebook page. I recall you were looking high and low for that coach and couldn't find one anywhere?
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Have you given up hope on the DS 4375? Not sure if you had seen that Newmar has recently built one and posted photos on their Facebook page. I recall you were looking high and low for that coach and couldn't find one anywhere?
We checked with the dealer and theirs was shipped on the 20th and they are supposed to call us when in. Might even be the one in the pictures.
But the Magna is so much more overall than the DSDP and not much more $$ that I really hate to pass it up. Then one the dealer has coming doesn't have all the options I'd want either. So I guess the answer is yes, we have given up although I'm sure I'll have to take the wife down and look at it. The dealer ordered the 4375 in MAY and it's just now getting here so I suspect there was some dealer shuffling of build dates!
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Well, you certainly can't go wrong with a well maintained Country Coach ... beautiful motorhome. Good luck with your search!
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You could look into replacing the macerator unit with a different throne.

We were told we had a 60 Grey and 60 Black in our 04 Allure. I had a pump from Grey to Black added, as 60 Black with a nom macerator throne, would not be filling up near as fast as our Grey. It was while reviewing the pump installation with the tech, that I noted that the Black seemed to be smaller then the Grey. A bit more investigation revealed that the specific model Allure we had, the High Cascade, had only a 40 gallon Black... (We still are able to shift some Grey to Black, but not near as much added Grey capacity that I hoped for. I figured about 85-90 gallon Grey capacity - reality is I probably have 70-75 Grey capacity now. And this is practicing what we call full Boondocking mode habits! We went 6 full days in Canada on our way to Alaska, and were just about maxed out on both Grey and Black.

Great looking coach, and I also liked the Premier Wanderlodge, even with one slide only...

My opinion on all cash vs partial financing, is to conserve the annuities. Finance interest rates are so low, and a little bit of help with Schedule A makes it even lower. You always have the annuities available to dip into and pay it off - if that ever becomes important for to you. But, I've for sure learned that we all don't have the same perceptions on how and where to use our money! And that is OK...

Good luck on your ongoing due diligence,
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The toilet is a non macerator Techma Plus II.
Also has a MotoSat in motion satellite. MotoSat went out of business in '13 so repairs would be a problem. It's set up for Direct so that's OK though.
May have to modify my across the street neighbors mailbox though as I barely clear it with our present 41' unit!
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The toilet is a non macerator Techma Plus II.
Also has a MotoSat in motion satellite. MotoSat went out of business in '13 so repairs would be a problem. It's set up for Direct so that's OK though.
May have to modify my across the street neighbors mailbox though as I barely clear it with our present 41' unit!
Mine came with MotoSat and Direct TV but we have Dish at home so I switched them both out for Dish Traveler 1000 . I got everything at CW on sale total about $350 off and had it installed at Kustom Coach Works by Bobby & Scott. The boys as they are called are both X Country Coach techs and they are good, 3hrs install and setup. They did my Samsung and Magnum 2812 and controller 7.5hrs.
Well hope you get it they are a great coach.
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Mine came with MotoSat and Direct TV but we have Dish at home so I switched them both out for Dish Traveler 1000 . I got everything at CW on sale total about $350 off and had it installed at Kustom Coach Works by Bobby & Scott. The boys as they are called are both X Country Coach techs and they are good, 3hrs install and setup. They did my Samsung and Magnum 2812 and controller 7.5hrs.
Well hope you get it they are a great coach.
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Yep, I figured if the MotoSat quit it'd just be better to replace the whole thing. We don't need or want in motion anyway.
The other thing is the SmarTire setup. They aren't out of business but no longer support the RV end. If they quit (and they will) I'll just use my TST system I already have.
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Yep, I figured if the MotoSat quit it'd just be better to replace the whole thing. We don't need or want in motion anyway.
The other thing is the SmarTire setup. They aren't out of business but no longer support the RV end. If they quit (and they will) I'll just use my TST system I already have.
My 2007 vintage Smart Tire system is still working. I believe Bob Dickman Tire in Junction City still has some sensors but, as you, I will use an external system when my ST sensors finally give up.

Are you sure about the toilet not being a macerator? I thought all the Techma toilets were macerator. I have the Techma. If the toilet is mounted over the black water tank, it is likely not macerator.
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My 2007 vintage Smart Tire system is still working. I believe Bob Dickman Tire in Junction City still has some sensors but, as you, I will use an external system when my ST sensors finally give up.

Are you sure about the toilet not being a macerator? I thought all the Techma toilets were macerator. I have the Techma. If the toilet is mounted over the black water tank, it is likely not macerator.
Just going by what the dealers owner says, but he's wrong too! I just did a search and found that it is a macerator type. There are three ways to flush it, one is for liquid waste, one for solids and the third leaves the bowl empty for travel.
Thanks for the correction! I'll let him know.
Now looking to see how much water it uses per flush although that is programmable too. Thetford replied that, depending on the model they use 1.5 liters to 2 gallons per flush!! So, no wonder the tanks can fill up so fast!
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Well, the business owner emailed me today and said the toilet was an Aria Deluxe which is just an electric flush unit with no macerator.
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Mr_D,

If you're planning on coming down to Premier RV today or tomorrow stop by and say "hello". I'm sitting in their shop having some maintenance items tended to.

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If you're planning on coming down to Premier RV today or tomorrow stop by and say "hello". I'm sitting in their shop having some maintenance items tended to.

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Still trying to get a firm price/trade value from Louie now. Can;t get down there till at least Friday as I'm still working. Price/trade difference doesn't sound good enough from what Louie said! But we'll see.
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