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Old 11-08-2018, 09:42 PM   #1
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Michelin tires Vs Toyo's

Ok going to replace tires, I have heard both are good but Michelin are the best, I have M1112 Toyo's that have lasted seven years with zero wear but it's time. Les Schwab say's they could go another couple of years they are showing nothing and have about 10,000. miles

I also heard if I join FMCA I can save on Michelin, please your thoughts and why?
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I believe those are 12r 22.5 tires . I just replaced my 12r toyo’s yesterday with Toyo m144’s (295/80 22.5). They are a few inches shorter and about 3/4” wider. I think the metric size is a better choice. My tires looked like new but at 10 years old i didn’t Want to trust them. The coach came with toyo’s and I don’t think the extra expense of Michelin would be a benefit besides I think the sidewalls of the Toyo would be less likely to crack as they age out. Schwab wanted about $3600 out the door for the tires and wanted to put balance beads rather then lead weights. I bought mine on line from tires direct for $403 each delivered. Then drove to Reno to get them mounted balanced and installed for another $430. While I was waiting a long haul semi truck with a load of steel on a flat bed came in to replace 6 tractor tires and 4 trailer tires all were bald or badly feathered ?? One of the tractor tiree had a dot # with 3 numbers it was 23 years old!? Made my 10 year old tires look mighty good. They said they would send my discarded tires to Mexico to put on a truck down there.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:30 PM   #3
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i have a fleet of trucks and deal with a lot of tires. We are able to buy Michelin on basically the same deal and it does provide a good discount but they are more expensive tires. We tend to run new Michelin on steers and toyos or Micheline caps on rears.Most cap shops use the 10 year mark for capping. Toyos are good tires but i feel michelin is just a touch more reliable when it comes to reliability.
If i have a truck running heavy axle loads our shop will put on michelins and day to day lighter loads and locally ran rigs they will use whatever they can get the best buy on so long as its not a Chinese tire.
Personal i run michelin all around on the motorhome and the same for my personal truck.
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Thanks good stuff almost think I should hang another three years until I retire
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I went through FMCA 5 years ago and had my Mitchem tires installed at Superior Tire in Portland.

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Thanks good stuff almost think I should hang another three years until I retire

As a side note i have a kenworth truck that came with toyos from the factory and we had it custom built for a specific purpose so it only has about 80k on the odometer. still has the original rears and the truck was built in 1992. We have kept the steers more current.
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Kind of makes a guy wonder why we need to replace new looking tires in 7 to 10 years when big trucks can go 20 to 30 years till they wear out the treads? I suppose if the tires are loaded to the side wall ratings they will fail sooner? Apparently they can retread old tires up to 10 years old I did see newly retread semi tires at the tire shop that had 8 year old dot numbers? I thought they were going to send my 10 year old tires to the shredder but the said no they are in demand in Mexico? No wonder there is a lot of old rubber on the freeways.
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Old 11-09-2018, 10:07 AM   #8
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When a truck or trailer blows a tire, very little to zero body damage to the unit occurs.

Repairing body damage, systems or hardware on a MH from a blown out tire can be very expensive. Much more cost than a good set of tires.

Safe handling of a MH is also threatened in a blow out situation with only 5 or 7 tires left to handle the load.

Local travel Commercial trucks more often damage tires instead of wearing them out. So they buy recaps or cheap tires in the load carrying application. Hopefully they are more strategic with the steer tires.
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Toyo vs Mich

Hi Just a foot note. On they Toyo m 144 data sheet they show a cut and chip resistance rating of 2.5 out of 5. I would not consider these for the steer axle. I know some folks that totaled a coach due to a front tire failure. Just a thought.
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Hankook would be a good choice.
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Just put Michelin XRVs on the front, replacing 6 y.o. G/Ys that wore out the edges. Having had excellent prior service on non-MH vehicles, I leaned towards them versus the seriously-conjsidered Toyos. Like some others here, I found a better deal than FMCA, which some dealers dislike for the paperwork involved.


Surprising is the widespread talk of sidewall cracking, despite the special additives in Michelin's RV tires, which I did not buy. I have tire and use covers and plan to drive the coach as much as possible to keep the sidewalls in better shape. My knowledgeable friends say that, like machinery, tires need to be used, not sit, for best longterm functionality. They need to heat up some.


Continentals were also well recommended along with Firestone and a couple Korean tires (Hankook, for ex.). While I'd preferred to purchase from a US maker, the GYs just weren't tops on the service/cost scale.


I'm told that (Japanese owned) Toyos are no longer US made and Michelins are manufactured all over the planet.


Hopefully, care and use will have these tires outlive my capability to RV.
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My 2006 Inspire came with Toyos and I had 45,000miles on them by 2016 and they still looked brand new. I had a steering tire blowout crossing the Colorado River in the spring on a trip to Texas; I replaced both steering tires with Firestones. Later in August I lost an inner right dual which ended up taking out the bottom of my brand new 8D starting battery so throw on another 4 Firestones. My coach has always been garaged and although my sidewalls looked great a closer look showed hairline cracks in between the tread grooves. They say you should change your tires out at 8 years regardless of miles and I stretched it to 10 at the cost of a starting battery; Deandec is right as a shredded tire often causes more body damage at a substantially higher repair cost.
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I replaced my tire 1 1/2 yrs ago. My MH came from the factory with Michelins. They lasted 4 years till they started with the sidewall cracking. They were replaced with Bridgestones and they lasted 8 yrs. I replaced them with Yokohama's. I had considered Toyos. It was a toss up.
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We bought our Allure in September. It had 2013 Goodyear’s all around. Replaced steer with Toyos a couple of weeks ago. We have Toyos on our Safari. No problems with them. 2 Toyo M170’s 12R/22.5, mounted, tax and all for $1165.
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