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Old 01-28-2019, 06:06 AM   #1
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Need Antenna for Country Coach RV

Need to get a whole new Antenna installment including the stand and the mount for the Antenna. I want the best, and I reviewed the two that most viewers have mention on YouTube, and they are; Winegard Sensar RV Antenna, King Jack Antenna.

When I purchased the RV a few months ago, the Local Antenna functions were missing on the roof. I need to have local stations for areas that I need to watch certain things, and also RV campgrounds does have local station that is provided on their sites.

I spoke to the RV dealership here in Central Florida, and they want to charge me over 500 dollars to install, and not including tax and so forth.

What is your professional opinion on the best to have? Will it be useful to any of the system that I have in the 2000 Country Coach Affinity? I need the RV Antenna/Stand Mount.

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Old 01-28-2019, 07:21 AM   #2
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If your Affinity is like my Magna then you are going to have a problem trying to install a directional antenna like the Jack or Sensar. My mount for the old Concord antenna is close to the passenger side of the roof and the hole for feeding wires is above cabinets that will not allow for a means to turn the antenna.

I removed my Concord antenna head, made a bracket to hold the Jack and used that for awhile. My problem with the Jack was that I could not reliably get power to the built in amplifier because of my old wires. Also, I got very tired of going outside to see the direction of the antenna since the Concord motor drive system doesn't display direction information.

I finally removed the Jack and the whole Concord drive system and covered the hole in the roof with a plate. I removed a satellite dish centered near the front of the roof and had a Winegard RS-3000 omni directional antenna installed using the existing satellite signal wire. Performance is not great. The range is probably 20 to 25 miles.

I considered the Winegard Rayzar automatic antenna but the $350 price turned me off. An additional problem with the Rayzar is the low mounting location means that my air conditioner would probably limit reception from stations coming from the rear of the coach.

Don't know what you like watching but in addition to OTA TV I stream TV over the internet using my phone as a portable hotspot. I subscribe to Sling TV to watch some channels that are normally only available over cable.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:40 AM   #3
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You can buy a tripod mounted satellite dish from SatPro in Florida for $119......then you can buy a OWNED receiver off EBay...your choose either Direct or Dish before buying anything.....A Winegard Batwing is the best of all the antennas for range....and add a wingman to that....
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:08 AM   #4
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Thank you for your timely response Gentlemen. My wife and I attended a small college, and now my daughter is there. Watching other's at Homecoming last year. I notice that the other RV'S, had to raised their antennas up. Some really high from the roof to get the local station reception to view the game, since it was raining, and they stayed indoors. I do have a satellite in placed, but I need some local stations that my RV will not be able get through either Dish/Direct, because of the small towns in between.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:13 AM   #5
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They make a ladder mount antenna......and with an app on phone, it'll tell you in what direction the tower are.....see what comes up on google...in Quartzsite, they call them Desert Palm Trees...
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:26 AM   #6
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I removed the original power lift and turn Braund Concord Antenna and plugged the roof hole.

Then I installed the Winegard Sensor antenna which is reputed to get the best reception results. But it is manually lifted and aimed, and will not automatically lay down when the ignition is turned on. So one has to remember that it is sticking up in the air.

The install required a new hole in the roof for the cable leads due to position on the roof that I chose.

It works great although it is not in the tradition of motorized technology that CC seemed to represent.

My cost was just the antenna itself and some caulk. I did the job in an Indio campsite.

www.amazon.com/Winegard-RVW-395-Sensar-White-Antenna/dp/B003VAZ6OG/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_263_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&re fRID=0MDM1GGD3E7R5QMHA56V
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:10 AM   #7
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We replaced our 04 era Star Trek Enterprise looking fixed OTA with two different units.

We do not use OTA that often, but like it for times when Direct TV is blocked, and or we can not get a useable signal to stream off of.

I went with:

>Winegard Rayzar Auto - I is not raise it off the roof, but have seen others that have bought a white 5 gallon bucket and cut it to about 6" high, they turn it so the bottom is up and use three L brackets to attached the bucket to the roof, then mounted the Ryzar Auto to the top of that.

But even flat mounted, as TV signals do bounder around some, we've receive excellent channel reception. (See note at end on comparison between both antennas)

> Winegard Sensar IV - I wanted a risible mast, more so for getting a Yagi Cellular antenna up a it higher in the air, then for TV OTA signal. Found a used mast and crank, but the inside handle was in pretty sad looking shape, and the WAF would made that a no go. So, bought a new Senar IV.

The shop I was working at, had just received the Auto, and wanted to see how they hooked up, and get my opinion on how it performed. As they will not recommend products to customers that they do not get good feedback on. So, they cut me a deal on the price of both antennas, and I paid actual shop rates for the install of the Auto, which was about a $40 discount from the normal overhead and profit standard Shop Rates.

I had the shop A/B the antennas in, so I can choose between which antenna is feeding the signal to the TV.

Note: I tested these extensively back to back in the locations, for the first months. I found the Auto worked very good, and a one button push to check and lock in channel is as easy as it gets. Near city and or broadcast antenna locations, the Auto received every channel that the Sensar IV did. In some fringe area testing, I'd find the Sensar IV, with directional rotation aiming, could pull in a few channels that the Auto could not lock in on. (And note, the Auto has a tuning feature and will show you where other channels are, so you can adjust the direction of the Auto to take advantage of possibly other channels.) When I reported back to Eric, at Temecula Valley RV, I told him:

"95% + of the time, the Auto gets every channel that the Sensar IV does. Those other times, the auto gets about 90% of the channels that the Sensar IV does."

Very possible if the Auto was raised up that 6" or so higher, it might receive more of the channels the Sensar IV was able to pull in too.

For our limited OTA demands, if only wanting one antenna, I'd go with the Auto due to the KISS approach of operation. Yes it costs more, but if you're keeping a rig for say at lest 4-5 years, that costs amortizes out to be not such a bad difference over the Sensar IV. If you want a risible mast for other reasons, well then the Sensar IV is the way to go. If you want to maximize the amount of OTA channels you might receive in fringe areas- the Sensar IV is the way to go.

Opinions will vary!

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My installed antenna mount deteriorated. Rather than try to mess around with altering the mount or going to a more expensive option, I bought an HDTV antenna from BestBuy, a ladder flagpole mount, and some PVC piping. Takes about 2 minutes to put it up and attaches to the onboard cable connection. Works great!
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:23 AM   #9
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Razor auto

Hi I chose the razor auto in that I don't have to worry about forgetting to bring the mast units down. Anyway I removed the OLD sat antenna and used its cabling as well as building a PVC block to increase its elevation off the roof. Winegard does build a " elevation mount" for the antenna that you have to call them on, but as memory serves the antenna ends up being the tallest item on the roof by a couple of inches and I was not a comfortable with that as some others might be. For satellite I have a traveler mounted between the ac units.

As for reception it works just fine. Just a thing to remember. The units that you need to raise must be raised for rotation in that they are directional antennas. the upshot is that the ones around you that are raised may be raised to point them in the correct direction not to gain altitude for signal strength.

Just a thought.
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Hi I chose the razor auto in that I don't have to worry about forgetting to bring the mast units down. Anyway I removed the OLD sat antenna and used its cabling as well as building a PVC block to increase its elevation off the roof. Winegard does build a " elevation mount" for the antenna that you have to call them on, but as memory serves the antenna ends up being the tallest item on the roof by a couple of inches and I was not a comfortable with that as some others might be. For satellite I have a traveler mounted between the ac units.

As for reception it works just fine. Just a thing to remember. The units that you need to raise must be raised for rotation in that they are directional antennas. the upshot is that the ones around you that are raised may be raised to point them in the correct direction not to gain altitude for signal strength.

Just a thought.
I suspect the raising and aiming might give a better signal result (directional) than a directional antenna that is not raised above obstructions. I believe the Razor auto is also a directional antenna, not an Omni antenna. YMMV.
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Old 02-05-2019, 05:50 AM   #11
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Razor auto

Yes the razor auto is directional but the point I was trying to make it that it does not need to be raised ( to point ) and that the elevated antennas that were raised may not have been raised to get over obstructions but to point at the stations. Sorry if I was not clear.
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