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plasma800 · 07-13-2014, 09:43 AM

I've been doing a lot of research lately, and have really come to like the country coach in a lot of ways. Been looking in the 2005 - 2007 range and just wondering how you all like yours.

mike brez · 07-13-2014, 09:51 AM

I have looked at many. What model are you looking at? I think the Revolution Le may be better than some CC. I know you have had yours for sale did you sell?

smlranger · 07-13-2014, 10:04 AM

We certainly love our 2007 Allure. We traded a solid Winnebago Journey for this coach and it is very nice. In our search for a larger, tag axle coach, we looked at Newmar Mountain Aires, Essex, and American Coach Traditions and Eagles of the same years (2005 - 2007). After inspecting several we really liked the solid construction and tasteful design of the CC. We are now in CC land (Junction City, OR) to have a few service items done. CC has several nice looking consignment coaches for sale.

We've traveled over 3,000 miles on this trip from our home in Virginia and the Allure has handled flawlessly, is quiet (no rattles), and has plenty of power.

Having dabbled in wood working and some cabinet building, I can say the cabinet work is outstanding. Even looking behind things like TV's, under the bed, etc. I am impressed with how they put things together.

2 Stroker · 07-13-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by plasma800

I've been doing a lot of research lately, and have really come to like the country coach in a lot of ways. Been looking in the 2005 - 2007 range and just wondering how you all like yours.

We have had our 06 for 18mo and just now getting it where it should be because the people that had it did not know the first thing about RVing. It had 17k miles on it but the one good thing it had the new radiator in it.
They are a great coach and ride like a dream plus they have a side radiator.

2 stroker

Medico · 07-13-2014, 10:25 AM

The only negative of our CC is that the electronics and satellite are 2006 vintage. If I had the cash I would go to Junction City and have everything updated with "modern" systems.

Otherwise our coach has been great, comfortable to drive and live in with lots of storage space. If I had a choice I would have opted for a bath and a half and all electric with induction cooktop as well.

plasma800 · 07-13-2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mike brez

I have looked at many. What model are you looking at? I think the Revolution Le may be better than some CC. I know you have had yours for sale did you sell?

No sale yet. I'm being patient with this one.. I mean all in all, our coach works great... the only reason to move around is all personal taste

I like the CC has some tag's in a 38 or 40' model though, that's pretty sweet.

I figure if I can grab the right platform, anything inside can be changed, remodeled what have you.

I wonder why CC stopped building coaches?

Peralko · 07-13-2014, 12:50 PM

Country Coach stopped building coaches because they went bankrupt in 2010. While the economy played a big factor, their decision to invest in the design of the poorly received Veranda models and the ultra-luxury Rhapsody were also big factors. Ron Lee, who started Country Coach with his brother Bob Lee, bought the CC intellectual property in the bankruptcy after not being connected with CC since 1995. He runs a technical support, parts and service organization out of some of the CC buildings, and is seeking funds to restart production. They also have pre-owned coaches for sale on consignment.

plasma800 · 07-13-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Peralko

Country Coach stopped building coaches because they went bankrupt in 2010. While the economy played a big factor, their decision to invest in the design of the poorly received Veranda models and the ultra-luxury Rhapsody were also big factors. Ron Lee, who started Country Coach with his brother Bob Lee, bought the CC intellectual property in the bankruptcy after not being connected with CC since 1995. He runs a technical support, parts and service organization out of some of the CC buildings, and is seeking funds to restart production. They also have pre-owned coaches for sale on consignment.

Well hats off to them and best of luck, because they all seem to be doing it right!

Smitty77 · 07-13-2014, 02:11 PM

We are a bit older in year, 2004 Allure 40' High Cascade model, ISL - and we did not hesitate to purchase this when it became available 3 or so years ago now. (We pulled the purchase up by a few years, due the dramatic drop in prices with so many people needing to get out from under these coaches. We stayed within our same planned budget range, and got much more coach then we had expected. Sorry those who had to sell, but glad we were able save severa 10's of thousands.)

When we looked, we felt the Intrigue model was the best to fit us. It was not quite as 'flashy' as the higher Magna's and Affinities (That's not a ding, but we liked the simpler less glitz interiors of the Allure and Intrigues. And as an aside, less things to go wrong

!). The Intrigue model was also available with the larger BIG CAT. I really would have had the Cummins ISM over the ISL, but also the BIG CAT over the ISL too. The ISL does us fine, with just a few times on long grades, where I wish I had bit more power. And most of all, I would have liked the 3 Stage Jake Compression that the Bigger Blocks of the CAT or ISM would have provided.

On length, look carefully between the 40' and the 42', as the 42' gets you the full third bay, vs 1/2 third bay with the 40'. And depending upon sub model and number of slides, the 40' sometimes comes with a 40 vs 60 gallon Black Tank. If that is important to you.

As you are looking in this range of the Class A lineup, I suggest you also do a cross check with:
-Monaco Executives (Can be found with the Detroit 60)
-Foretravel (I like the ISM with Allison Retarder combo)
-Wanderlodge LXI (A bit older, but a solid coach too.)
-You know the upper end of the American line
-Travel Supreme - made a good value coach, with Entegra now picking up
-Newmar - Some of those years Mountain Aires came with big block, and good options

Down the food chain some, but I respect the Triple E for cold weather usage. And I found the Rexhall with the large full coach double slides, to be a very safe coach with the full metal cage construction.

A gent posted on the Yahoo CC User Group, that they need to sell their Intrigue Ovation II, 2006. Here is a link to that:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...messages/96321

Best of luck on your search,
Smitty

plasma800 · 07-13-2014, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Smitty77

We are a bit older in year, 2004 Allure 40' High Cascade model, ISL - and we did not hesitate to purchase this when it became available 3 or so years ago now. (We pulled the purchase up by a few years, due the dramatic drop in prices with so many people needing to get out from under these coaches. We stayed within our same planned budget range, and got much more coach then we had expected. Sorry those who had to sell, but glad we were able save severa 10's of thousands.)

When we looked, we felt the Intrigue model was the best to fit us. It was not quite as 'flashy' as the higher Magna's and Affinities (That's not a ding, but we liked the simpler less glitz interiors of the Allure and Intrigues. And as an aside, less things to go wrong

!). The Intrigue model was also available with the larger BIG CAT. I really would have had the Cummins ISM over the ISL, but also the BIG CAT over the ISL too. The ISL does us fine, with just a few times on long grades, where I wish I had bit more power. And most of all, I would have liked the 3 Stage Jake Compression that the Bigger Blocks of the CAT or ISM would have provided.

On length, look carefully between the 40' and the 42', as the 42' gets you the full third bay, vs 1/2 third bay with the 40'. And depending upon sub model and number of slides, the 40' sometimes comes with a 40 vs 60 gallon Black Tank. If that is important to you.

As you are looking in this range of the Class A lineup, I suggest you also do a cross check with:
-Monaco Executives (Can be found with the Detroit 60)
-Foretravel (I like the ISM with Allison Retarder combo)
-Wanderlodge LXI (A bit older, but a solid coach too.)
-You know the upper end of the American line
-Travel Supreme - made a good value coach, with Entegra now picking up
-Newmar - Some of those years Mountain Aires came with big block, and good options

Down the food chain some, but I respect the Triple E for cold weather usage. And I found the Rexhall with the large full coach double slides, to be a very safe coach with the full metal cage construction.

A gent posted on the Yahoo CC User Group, that they need to sell their Intrigue Ovation II, 2006. Here is a link to that:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...messages/96321

Best of luck on your search,
Smitty

Can't see the link as you need to be a member of the group and I can't seem to find a link to join. But I'm interested in seeing it for sure. Never mind... found my way it.

I like both the Allure models and the intrigue.. some of them each have stunningly nice interiors...

Dave 430 · 07-13-2014, 04:25 PM

Jay, you need to have a Yahoo account (It's Free) and then request from the group to join.. It's a very simple process.

Here is what they posted...

After living in Country Coaches for nearly 14 years we had to buy a
stick house because of health problems. We loved our life on the
road, but things change as we get older. (Example: I am currently in
my second week of recovery from a knee replacement.)

Our coach is a 2006 Intrigue Ovation II (CC. #12005). This 42 ft.
beauty only has 30,000 miles on it. It as all the extras on it
including the 525 Cat, and 10K generator that will run all three A/C
units at once. It has heated tile floors, automatic awnings, sun
shades, front curtain, etc. We are even leaving the five 100 watt
solar panels and controller on it. We think that this year and model
are some of the very best products Country Coach ever built. We
selected it over the Magnas because it has more storage space and
suited our lifestyle better.

It has been great being in the Country Coach family all these years.
I have found all the other owners wonderful in sharing information and
experiences. It is truly a special group.

Gene and Martha Merryman

They did not post a price nor location with the post... If you want more info just let us know and we will see what that say or post.

Good luck with your search...

deandec · 07-14-2014, 12:57 PM

We have owned our rig for 12+ of its 19+ years.

My personal take on why CC had to declare bankruptcy, was that the company departed from its original formula after being purchased by National RV.

Originally, CC seemed to be targeted at the high end quality MH market, similar to Foretravel. The models were Allure, Intrigue, Magna, and Affinity.

They produced the Concept as the Prevost Bus Conversion alternate and also did a Prevost Country Coach conversion.

Post acquisition, the publicly traded company goals of year over year revenue and profit increases forced a change of philosophy.

To accomplish those goals, more entry level rigs were introduced, Tribute & Inspire, to boost the production and sales volumes needed in a publicly traded stock organization.

At the same time the mainline rigs became more sophisticated and more expensive to build and sell at a profit. CC struggled to find a unique market niche for those high priced rigs in volume. Hence the failed Veranda models and the Rhapsody.

National RV, Inc had sales and delamination warranty problems. CC appeared to be the only profitable arm of the Corporation. I suspect much of its profit got sucked into the leaky lifeboat for National RV.

The recession and higher cost operations collided and both Companies failed.

Both Companies built a quality product and had happy customers.

smlranger · 07-14-2014, 06:19 PM

I am at CC in Junction City now. They seem to be using only one large building now for their service center and one smaller building for their fiberglass work (saw some guys pulling some pieces from a mold this morning). Otherwise, the place reminds me of an abandoned airport.... empty, neglected and faded buildings, brown grass growing in former parking/storage lots, tons of old fiberglass molds on the ground with moss growing on them. It appears some of their former buildings are occupied by Premier RV and another company across the road. I imagine this place was something to behold during their glory years.

Peralko · 07-14-2014, 09:24 PM

You forgot the chassis shop in the back of the property! Yes it is sad to see--we toured the factory right after we bought out coach in 2001. But what you see is the difference between 1,800 (about 5,000 at one time), and the roughly 40-some you see today. Still, Ron Lee is keeping support for our coaches alive better than anyone else due to the intellectual property he has, and I firmly believe he needs the support of us Country Coach owners. The people he has are good folks, and they do good work. Hopefully you come away with a good experience.