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Old 03-31-2015, 09:28 AM   #15
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Rod: what engine do you have that is pre-emission?
Suspect he meant the change to DEF.

From 2004 and on, I believe their were three major regulation changes in regards to smog control. The second change, so close to the first one, is one of the reasons CAT left the the Over The Road engine support. The costs to design, test and certify needs a realistic time to recoup via production volume. This is a business, and frankly CAT did the math, and realized it was no longer cost effective for them to remain in OTR.

I recall seeing a good Diesel Engine Smog Change Timeline on one thread. Either on IRV2, or could have been RV.Net. If I find it, I'll share it. (Or, if someone else has it, it would be nice to share the link.) (Probably should start a new thread on this, as it is not specific to this post!)

I personally like the pre 2004 or 2006 level changes when looking for an engine. But many do not want to have a coach that old, and that is OK!

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Old 03-31-2015, 07:17 PM   #16
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Mr D, in 2008 CC went to the new emission engine starting with coach #6914 according to Damon Rapozo. Apparently Rod's coach was built earlier than #6914.
Not only that, the build-sheet for the post 2007 Emission also states that!
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Old 03-31-2015, 08:09 PM   #17
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I would definitely get another CC, just like I have, an 05 Magna, only change I would make would be to get a 42 footer instead of the 45. The Big Cat is a must...
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Old 04-01-2015, 09:51 PM   #18
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I think I would look for a 2002 or 2003 Magna with a tag axle and a bigger Cat (C10 to a C12) but nothing else. I love my 2000 Magna, just as she is. The pre-emissions C10 Cat runs exceptionally well and trouble free. I think CC is the best brand by far based upon my prior experience with two other MH's prior to this one and I prefer Cat to Cummins--but that is just my personal preference.
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:11 AM   #19
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We drove a Newmar Dutch Star recently. Made us want to sell our CC Inspire. The newmar has better insulation, quieter ride, comfort steer, king bed, and more. Still has a Cummins too with 25 more HP. We are still debating....
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:16 AM   #20
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Tobias - You should go look at the new Allure at the CC factory. It will have computer aided steer plus your other features you mentioned. Or for that matter a higher end Country Coach. Two of my close RV friends have Dutch Stars. Very nice motorhomes, but not close to the level of build quality of our motorhome.
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:37 PM   #21
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Tobias - I don't know what your timing is, or if you are looking at a new coach. But if you are considering a used coach, Medico has an outstanding looking and from reading his posts over the years - well cared for Magna.

You were probably aware that the Tribute and Inspire lines of CC, were to compete more with the mid level coaches of other manufacturers. Nice coach, with good value at their price points. And sure, as with all coaches, some problems too! But, the Allure line up, are totally different builds and equipped CC's.

Country Coach Magna for sale - RVs, Tows, and Toads for Sale - Escapees Discussion Forum

Above is a link to where Medico has the coach listed on the Escapees board.

And no, have never met Medico, and sure not hunting for a commission! Just sharing this nice sounding coach being available...

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Old 04-05-2015, 01:17 AM   #22
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Tobias - I don't know what your timing is, or if you are looking at a new coach. But if you are considering a used coach, Medico has an outstanding looking and from reading his posts over the years - well cared for Magna.

You were probably aware that the Tribute and Inspire lines of CC, were to compete more with the mid level coaches of other manufacturers. Nice coach, with good value at their price points. And sure, as with all coaches, some problems too! But, the Allure line up, are totally different builds and equipped CC's.

Country Coach Magna for sale - RVs, Tows, and Toads for Sale - Escapees Discussion Forum

Above is a link to where Medico has the coach listed on the Escapees board.

And no, have never met Medico, and sure not hunting for a commission! Just sharing this nice sounding coach being available...

Best to all,
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Thank you Smitty!
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Tobias - You should go look at the new Allure at the CC factory. It will have computer aided steer plus your other features you mentioned. Or for that matter a higher end Country Coach. Two of my close RV friends have Dutch Stars. Very nice motorhomes, but not close to the level of build quality of our motorhome.
Bob, you got that right! We stopped by a local dealer who carries American Coach (Tradition), Newmar (London Aire, Mountain Aire and Dutch Star) and Tiffin products. None of them gets even close to the quality in our coach. We will be looking at either a Magna or Affinity 07-08 vintage. The only coaches that would steer us away from Country Coach would be a Prevost conversion or Newell, but either one would have to be older than the Country Coaches we're considering.
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Tobias - I don't know what your timing is, or if you are looking at a new coach. But if you are considering a used coach, Medico has an outstanding looking and from reading his posts over the years - well cared for Magna.

You were probably aware that the Tribute and Inspire lines of CC, were to compete more with the mid level coaches of other manufacturers. Nice coach, with good value at their price points. And sure, as with all coaches, some problems too! But, the Allure line up, are totally different builds and equipped CC's.

Country Coach Magna for sale - RVs, Tows, and Toads for Sale - Escapees Discussion Forum

Above is a link to where Medico has the coach listed on the Escapees board.

And no, have never met Medico, and sure not hunting for a commission! Just sharing this nice sounding coach being available...

Best to all,
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Thank you for your kind words Smitty. The coach and lot are still available. See the classified section as well.
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After driving the same class c for 12 years. We recently purchased a 02 Intrigue 36' Evening star with the ISL 400. Wow, I cannot believe the power this rocket ship has. Set the cruise on 65, and sit back and let her go. Even on steep grades it doesn't even have to downshift. While getting 9.5 mpg, I am truly amazed. We are so glad that we moved up to the diesel pusher class, and purchasing an older, and better built coach was the right move. We have only owned her since January, but have been on a couple of trips thus far. Plenty of storage space, and love having my dinette facing my campsite. Can't think of one thing that I dislike about the coach. I would look for this exact same coach, because I feel it has a very good combination of livability, and drivability.
You should drive a Magna with the 650 Cummmins, if you can find one thats running that is. Somewhere between 70 and 75 #'s per hp. They do step up and go!
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I would look for exactly what we have now. 42' 2006 Magna. C-13 CAT with tag. We bought it a year ago. 7k miles so not really broken in yet. I've had some minor problems but they haven't been coach quality issues, they've been age but not used issues. I've done some electronics upgrades and LED lighting as much as possible. I love the looks. Materials and build quality is outstanding. Yes. I'd have another Country Coach in a heartbeat. Just think about the responses in this thread. Most of the people who have responded have serious brand loyalty for a company/product that hasn't put out a new vehicle in 5 years. And that's over numerous brand new buses out there. Thats quite a testimonial.
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