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franktr · 12-16-2016, 10:18 AM

I am replacing the AC Wall plug for the Bedroom TV as it has only one outlet. I need two, one for the TV another for the DVD. I have noticed the MH uses a special outlet where the wires are not screwed like a home plug but get pushed into a crimp device in the outlet. Do you see anything wrong with using a household outlet and either screwing the wires to it or use the push in device.

select55 · 12-16-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by franktr

I am replacing the AC Wall plug for the Bedroom TV as it has only one outlet. I need two, one for the TV another for the DVD. I have noticed the MH uses a special outlet where the wires are not screwed like a home plug but get pushed into a crimp device in the outlet. Do you see anything wrong with using a household outlet and either screwing the wires to it or use the push in device.

those RV crimp system drive me crazy and there extremely hard to put the wires into so I use a household one when replacing if its doable
the way the outlet is held into the wall though sometimes forces one to use the Rv type
If it was me I would just buy a simple 2 or 3 into one plug in or a small power bar
No real need to switch to a dual plug outlet at all

Falcon190 · 12-16-2016, 10:40 AM

All outlets should be in an electrical box cover to protect against fire and shocks, but RV walls are generally so shallow that they're not deep enough for regular box covers. RV outlets are very shallow and, in essence, in their own box so they're self contained; no bare wires.

I've replaced a number of the old style RV outlets (and added a few new ones) with the more modern square outlets using a very shallow box cover. But where the walls are too thin then use the RV type, which BTW typically have two outlets.

RV designers sure seem to miss the boat when it comes to how many outlets are in an RV and where they're placed.

Woodchopper · 12-16-2016, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by franktr

I am replacing the AC Wall plug for the Bedroom TV as it has only one outlet. I need two, one for the TV another for the DVD. I have noticed the MH uses a special outlet where the wires are not screwed like a home plug but get pushed into a crimp device in the outlet. Do you see anything wrong with using a household outlet and either screwing the wires to it or use the push in device.

franktr
There's no reason not to, (if the coach builder left enough "slack in the wires" to do so).

select55 · 12-16-2016, 10:57 AM

like said small power bar or cheap 3 in one plug in solves problems 100%
no fuse no muss

franktr · 12-16-2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon190

All outlets should be in an electrical box cover to protect against fire and shocks, but RV walls are generally so shallow that they're not deep enough for regular box covers. RV outlets are very shallow and, in essence, in their own box so they're self contained; no bare wires.

I've replaced a number of the old style RV outlets (and added a few new ones) with the more modern square outlets using a very shallow box cover. But where the walls are too thin then use the RV type, which BTW typically have two outlets.

RV designers sure seem to miss the boat when it comes to how many outlets are in an RV and where they're placed.

I had to cut to allow a box to fit and I will use a box, plug and cover. After I cut the support there is a lot of room. This plug is behind trim for the TV

wa8yxm · 12-16-2016, 06:00 PM

There is nothing at all wrong with replacing the "Quick Box" piece of (term deleted by poster) with a proper Home type outlet in a proper box.

In fact.. I highly recommend it

Though in this specific case.. Well, the load is not that great I'm not at all impressed with the current carrying capability of the "Quick Box" type outlets.. That v-slot makes very slight contact with the wire... Proper outlets have much more contact area.

So go right ahead.

Just put it in a box.

franktr · 12-16-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wa8yxm

There is nothing at all wrong with replacing the "Quick Box" piece of (term deleted by poster) with a proper Home type outlet in a proper box.

In fact.. I highly recommend it

Though in this specific case.. Well, the load is not that great I'm not at all impressed with the current carrying capability of the "Quick Box" type outlets.. That v-slot makes very slight contact with the wire... Proper outlets have much more contact area.

So go right ahead.

Just put it in a box.

Why would they use this type outlet I am sure it is common for most MH

Woodchopper · 12-17-2016, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by franktr

Why would they use this type outlet I am sure it is common for most MH

franktr
Easier, Faster, Cheaper...(with MH/RV builders it's all about the $$)

vito.a · 12-17-2016, 01:17 PM

I mounted a Belkin 6 outlet power strip in the TV/audio compartment. Even 2 outlets were not enough.
Also, most RV TV outlets are setup so they turnoff when the ignition is turned on.

philand · 12-18-2016, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by franktr

Why would they use this type outlet I am sure it is common for most MH

The "push on" boxes are much more shallow. In my case, an old work box is too deep to fit. I was looking for a bezel mount a residential type box, but haven't found one yet. There is one installed on the shower side, with a gfci. I might have to make a 1/4 inch bezel, if I can't find a commercial one. BTW, that old #12 is a bear to bend

Scotialaddie · 12-18-2016, 08:26 AM

A "Wiremold "1 gang extension box should solve the problem. They can be purchased from any electric supply house and maybe Home Depot/ Lowes. Whenever possible wrap the wire around the screw rather than using the stab in option on the back of the outlets. A side note, duplex outlets are available with USB ports built in and although not practical behind a TV they can be retrofitted in other locations and used to charge other electronic devices.

Woodchopper · 12-18-2016, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by philand

The "push on" boxes are much more shallow. In my case, an old work box is too deep to fit. I was looking for a bezel mount a residential type box, but haven't found one yet. There is one installed on the shower side, with a gfci. I might have to make a 1/4 inch bezel, if I can't find a commercial one. BTW, that old #12 is a bear to bend

philand
1" deep and 1-1/4" deep electrical boxes are readily available:

3-3/4" x 2" x 1" Deep
https://www.zoro.com/raco-electrical...04/i/G0661157/

3-5/8" x 2-3/8" x 1-1/4" Deep
Carlon Single Gang Flanged Old Work Shallow Box: Model# B108R-UPC | True Value