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gfinck5002 · 03-07-2023, 01:27 PM

Hello all, need some advice! I have a 2008 Holiday Rambler Endeavor that I purchased 5 months ago. This is now the 3rd time the windshield has popped out of the rubber seal in the passenger upper corner. I am able to get it back in but rough roads and using the jacks seem to increase the issue of it popping out. At one point you could put 4 fingers through the corner to the outside. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

bduemig · 03-07-2023, 01:49 PM

I had the same issue with my old motorhome. It is a 2 pieces windshield. The windshield tech told me that either a weak seal or a tweaked frame will cause such a problem. I had the seal and both windshields replaced and it happened again. I had it put back in and traded it off because I didn't want to deal with it again.

Lowflyer1 · 03-07-2023, 05:01 PM

In these coaches you need to lower the front jack first. Then that will act as a pivot point and prevent the frame twisting excessively and damage to windshield.
And as you've already noticed, best to avoid rough roads and any steep approaches.

You can download a manual from the below link. The discussion on jacks is on p. 215-216.
https://www.holidayrambler.com/owners-manuals/

shootist · 03-07-2023, 05:27 PM

Here is what was wrong with my friends, 8 windshields since new. Popping out was a problem. The rubber was never taken out before. As soon as the installer saw this he said it was sticking out way to far. The plywood and the ceiling panels were cut back 3/4 inch. Only 3 of those 8 windshields should even had been in jeopardy of breaking. This is a known problem with HR’s.

gfinck5002 · 03-07-2023, 06:20 PM

Thank you, this is a one piece windshield and quite heavy which seems to be part of the problem especially on rough roads.

96 Wideglide · 03-07-2023, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowflyer1

In these coaches you need to lower the front jack first. Then that will act as a pivot point and prevent the frame twisting excessively and damage to windshield.

+1.

This goes for any class A coach with hyd jacks!

gfinck5002 · 03-07-2023, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shootist

Here is what was wrong with my friends, 8 windshields since new. Popping out was a problem. The rubber was never taken out before. As soon as the installer saw this he said it was sticking out way to far. The plywood and the ceiling panels were cut back 3/4 inch. Only 3 of those 8 windshields should even had been in jeopardy of breaking. This is a known problem with HR’s.

Thanks Shootist! That makes sense, now I need to find someone to perform the work! I am assuming that your not having the windshield issues any longer?

shootist · 03-07-2023, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gfinck5002

Thanks Shootist! That makes sense, now I need to find someone to perform the work! I am assuming that your not having the windshield issues any longer?

As I said it’s a friend. So far so good. The glass installer was a specialist that came in from another town, recommended by the glass seller out of Coburn. This has been an on going issue with the 2 axle hr’s. He’s had his since new. The dash is also quite tight to the windshield rubber on the bottom side. The installer didn’t mention a problem with it.

gfinck5002 · 03-08-2023, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by shootist

As I said it’s a friend. So far so good. The glass installer was a specialist that came in from another town, recommended by the glass seller out of Coburn. This has been an on going issue with the 2 axle hr’s. He’s had his since new. The dash is also quite tight to the windshield rubber on the bottom side. The installer didn’t mention a problem with it.

Thanks again for the info! Want to try and get it resolved properly for the long haul as we love the coach!

jacwjames · 03-08-2023, 07:52 AM

Not sure which Monaco coaches have this problem but some people have had to reinforce the fiberglass at the bottom of the windshield.

In other cases I've read that some of the fiberglass has to be cut away.

Agree with the leveling procedure, front jack first lifting the coach ~1" to allow the front to pivot, then use the back to level.

If I am in an extremely unlevel area I have some flex and have to be careful. Haven't had a windshield crack/break but have seen a gap in the seal/glass.

shootist · 03-08-2023, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

Not sure which Monaco coaches have this problem but some people have had to reinforce the fiberglass at the bottom of the windshield.

In other cases I've read that some of the fiberglass has to be cut away.

Agree with the leveling procedure, front jack first lifting the coach ~1" to allow the front to pivot, then use the back to level.

If I am in an extremely unlevel area I have some flex and have to be careful. Haven't had a windshield crack/break but have seen a gap in the seal/glass.

I haven’t heard of any Monaco’s with this problem.

gfinck5002 · 03-09-2023, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

Not sure which Monaco coaches have this problem but some people have had to reinforce the fiberglass at the bottom of the windshield.

In other cases I've read that some of the fiberglass has to be cut away.

Agree with the leveling procedure, front jack first lifting the coach ~1" to allow the front to pivot, then use the back to level.

If I am in an extremely unlevel area I have some flex and have to be careful. Haven't had a windshield crack/break but have seen a gap in the seal/glass.

Thanks for the info as it is really appreciated!

kysptm · 03-09-2023, 02:23 PM

Hello.
Although our windshield problem is actually with the 2004-2005 HRs, it sounds a lot like yours.

We were told by the factory that it is a flaw in the design of the windshield and frame. there is no guaranteed fix, however we have replaced it 4 times and it needs replacing before we head home in April. The last one has lasted 2 years through Yellowstone, the Badlands, etc. My husband and a friend applied a generous amount of silicone completely around the sides and top around the seal. We do not have jacks, we have air leveler so that was not our problem. We've finally come to realize that we will periodically install a new windshield. The extra "seal" of thick silicone did help and lasted 2 years. We too love our coach and can't replace it with anything better so we just say a few choice words and replace it every so often.