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Old 03-31-2012, 01:47 PM   #1
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2013 Monaco

Inserting if anyone has any info on the coming 2013 models? Have been looking at some pictures of the 2012 Knight bath and half and it really looks nice. Anyone order or buy one yet?

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Old 03-31-2012, 04:10 PM   #2
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Knight and Ambassador were just re-done for 2012 and they are happy with what they have. No change at this point on 2013. I was down at the Indiana plant a couple of weeks ago saw several Bath and a Half units on line both. Paint work is really looking good. There was a lot of activity at the plant. My understanding is that they are now building more units in Indiana and it is going well and will wind down Oregon production sometime in May/June. I also have heard that the Oregon factory workers that are there today will have jobs at the Oregon towable plant and other jobs in the company. I think they wanted all Indiana diesels to have a fresh start and be called 2013s. Gas units are still 2012s since they have been building those there all along no word when those will change to 2013s.
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:21 PM   #3
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Was looking At a tag axle 42 foot phaeton. I see the new knight is 41.5 feet without tag. I assume the tag will be a nicer ride but, I think there will be more storage space below without that tag. I have a 2008 knight 38pdq. It has been great. We full time and it is getting too small. I wonder if the new knight ath and half will be that much of a jump or us?

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Old 03-31-2012, 05:27 PM   #4
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I noticed that the new knight has only 2 house batteries. Mine has 4. So why the reduced number?
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:26 PM   #5
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I noticed that the new knight has only 2 house batteries. Mine has 4. So why the reduced number?
If the're the same size as those on the Diplomat the size will be equivalent to 4 normal batteries

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The Batteries are the 16hc these batteries have over 800 amp hours between the two. You will get as much or more out of them then you now get. They are designed to run the new residential refers. Also the new 40dft has a longer wheel base than you now have and will ride nicer then you currently have. If you want tag you will have to move up to the Diplomat/Endeavor 43dft but you will jump up about 50k. I think the 40dft has a lot to offer also all Knights/Ambassadors now have 295 rubber regardless of the size.
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How what you compare a 2013 knight to my 2008 knight? Is the new knight in the same class as a 2008 diplomat or higher?

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Old 04-01-2012, 07:38 AM   #8
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I think the 2012/13 Knight is built the same way as your 2008 Knight.

However the the Knight really is up to a 2011 Diplomat as far as appointments and the interiors are close to that of a 2009 Camelot. All new tile and back splashes, upgraded cabinetry, solid surfaces, and hardware, nicer lighting,fixtures and furnishings.

The new Maxx10 would improve your torque by about 10%, 3 Stage Jacobs brake is nice on the steering wheel, and I really like the 295 tires. The chassis is all monoplex wiring this year and i think they upgraded all the electrical systems

Lots of other features are nice I like all MCD solar/blackout shades this year. The new dash design is very nice and I like the steering column that goes through the fire wall this gives the driver more leg room and you don't have to kick that column anymore. Better placement of all switches and gauges. Exterior LED lighting with optional interior LED. You could now get a residential refer with Auto Generator Start. I like also how they are eliminating all of the exterior screw covers and moldings built more like a truck body.

I may point out that I don't see many other manufactures investing much in R&D. Most manufactures have the same designs, same dashes, same front caps, same o same o that they had in 2008 or 2004 for that matter. Some will either love or hate the new Monaco designs but at least they are giving people with older units a reason to trade- more so then other brands.
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Thanks for the information. I really like the idea of an engine brake. The exhaust brake is not enough. I have been full timing for 5 years. We had ordered a new 42 foot Phaeton. I did cancel for a number of reasons. Have also looked at the Winnebago Tour. I know it is more expensive. I am interested in hearing what everyone thinks about a new Knight verses a new Phaeton. I have owned a couple gas Tiffins. One was bad. I have been to Red Bay to see them built and met Bob Tiffin. I like their openness and access. I wonder if you could do this with Monaco?

My rig came fron Indiana and I have seen that plant. Seems ok to me.

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Thanks for the information. I really like the idea of an engine brake. The exhaust brake is not enough. I have been full timing for 5 years. We had ordered a new 42 foot Phaeton. I did cancel for a number of reasons. Have also looked at the Winnebago Tour. I know it is more expensive.

My rig came fron Indiana and I have seen that plant. Seems ok to me.

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The Tour would definitely be more in line with the Diplomat,
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[QUOTE=ramblin10;1130731]The Batteries are the 16hc these batteries have over 800 amp hours between the two. QUOTE]


Just looked these bats up on Trojan site they have a retail of $605.00 each, but they have 400 plus amp hours each. They are twice as tall and heavy. But if you need the power, and have room its a sweet deal.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:02 PM   #12
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My wife and I were shopping for used Dynasty's, Executive’s, and Signature’s last week. The salesman showed her a new Knight and she loved it. The floorplan and fit/finish was much better than previous years.
However, I have had great luck with Cummins and l am not ready to own another Navistar engine.
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