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sartor · 01-27-2022, 02:54 PM

This is a bit of a sidenote, but I'm thinking it might prove helpful to others trying to diagnose slide issues in the future, or at least get themselves out of a jam.

Awhile back I pulled into a campground where another camper was unable to get one of his three slides to pull in, although the other two worked. This was a full-size DP rig, can't remember exactly what it was though. Maybe a Tiffin, 2010 or so.

Anyway, turns out that the problem was all related to the *switch* on the wall for that non-working rear slide. There's a circuit board inside the wall behind the switch, and that board had gone bad.

Meanwhile, outside the RV in one of the basement compartments, was the "main board" where the signals from the switches for all three slides came together as "inputs," and then there were "output" wires (thicker gauge) delivering +/- voltage out to the slide motors (connecting 12/0 makes it go one direction, connecting 0/12 makes it go the other). To (temporarily) resolve his issue, I just took the *input* wires from one of the other (working) switches, and connected them to the input connections for the non-working rear switch, at that circuit board in the outside basement compartment. Having done so, he was now able to operate the (previously non-working, but now working) rear slide, by pushing the wall switch for the *other* slide. This at least got him all pulled in so he could travel to his next destination, awaiting delivery of a new circuit board for the non-working rear switch.

Of course, another temporary solution could have been to simply *jumper* 12V/GND to the *output* terminals of the non-working slide at that circuit board, but that's a more "delicate" procedure.

Anyway, it wasn't clear to me from reading through the prior three pages of posts as to whether or not you've already tried jumpering power/ground directly to the non-working slides motor connections.

Sorry if this ends up being of no help whatsoever. :-(

Tom

Bonron · 01-27-2022, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceclimber

Interesting idea. Last night when backing in the driveway I scraped the coach into the ground a little. Maybe that did it. Too chilly for driveway antics tonight, will take a look in the morning.

Here’s a trick my service guy showed me. I have the power gear slides/electric. Somewhere in your bays there’s the controllers for your slides. Find them and find the controller that works. Disconnect and plug in each non working slide, if they engage then it’s those controllers. Good luck.

Iceclimber · 01-27-2022, 05:00 PM

It was the Monaco Triple Slide relay board. The date on the back of the bad one says 2003, so maybe it just gave up. And yeah, I think I will order a spare.

Regardless I will troubleshoot the steps to see if something is shorted but I am back in business.

Thanks for all the great suggestions, and I learned a lot- luckily in my driveway.

Steve 716 · 01-27-2022, 05:02 PM

If you have a circuit board that has an independent channel for each slide you can swap the two wires and the plug-in circuit breaker from a non working slide with the channel that does work and see if that slide moves. You can do this with all three non working slides. If the slides work when plugged into your known good channel replace the board. If they don’t double check that you are swapping the correct wires.

Before you do any of this write down which wires normally go to which terminals on your board so you can put them back in their original locations.

Iceclimber · 01-27-2022, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DennisZ

I don’t think the lower end coaches (Diplomat and below) have the switches, my Endeavor does not have them.

hey we don't have lower end coaches ours are "distinguished" lol
Personally I am glad I don't have yet one more thing to troubleshoot.

celtic68 · 01-27-2022, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceclimber

Dunno if I am on to something but the battery cutoff in the main fuse box had a blown 7.5 amp fuse. I replaced it, but nothing has changed. The salesman switch has never done anything for me - meaning on or off everything still works in
the coach 12v wise - not quite sure what that blown fuse hints at.

I am 100% vexed mostly due to once slide working and 3 not. Just makes no sense. It acts like it's the ignition safety but that would stop all 4 slides.

Any advice on how to get that stuck out side in - I probably need to take it to a 12v specialist.

try pushing switchin while pushing button for slide,

Iceclimber · 01-27-2022, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by celtic68

try pushing switchin while pushing button for slide,

I could but the problem is resolved...

Ian2604 · 01-27-2022, 07:44 PM

Does anyone have the problem that you have to keep pressing the in button over and over to bring the slideout in? It will move maybe 1/4” with each press. It will come in eventually with a lot of presses, but it is really annoying. Has anyone had this problem and how did you correct it?

Ian2604 · 01-27-2022, 07:45 PM

Does anyone have the problem that you have to keep pressing the in button over and over to bring the slideout in? It will move maybe 1/4” with each press. It will come in eventually with a lot of presses, but it is really annoying. Has anyone had this problem and how did you correct it?

Ian2604 · 01-27-2022, 07:46 PM

Does anyone have the problem that you have to keep pressing the in button over and over to bring the slideout in? It will move maybe 1/4” with each press. It will come in eventually with a lot of presses, but it is really annoying. Has anyone had this problem and how did you correct it?

Iceclimber · 01-27-2022, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian2604

Does anyone have the problem that you have to keep pressing the in button over and over to bring the slideout in? It will move maybe 1/4” with each press. It will come in eventually with a lot of presses, but it is really annoying. Has anyone had this problem and how did you correct it?

You probably want to start a new thread with all the details of your coach, slides and systems.

jacwjames · 01-28-2022, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceclimber

I could but the problem is resolved...

I think you are the first Monaco owner that I've read about having a slide control board go bad. Glad you got it fixed.

I'm lucky in that I only have two slides and my generator slide uses the same control board so if something happens I can get by.

bannerrun · 01-28-2022, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceclimber

Yesterday, put slides in all is well. Went and got fuel

This morning two rear slides extend ok fine. Front slides not moving and not trying - meaning the lights are not dimming when I hit the switch. Now one of the rear slides is out and will not move. The one rear slide acts totally normal.

Checked fuse #22 for the slide relay. Bounced the house breakers, house battery switch and inverter.

Any ideas ?

I had 3 slides that wouldn't move. The fuse was ok but the wire connecting behind the fuse holder was loose. Pulled out the fuse panel, tightened the wire & now all is well.

/17 Thor Challenger 37GT.

Iceclimber · 01-28-2022, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

I think you are the first Monaco owner that I've read about having a slide control board go bad. Glad you got it fixed.

I'm lucky in that I only have two slides and my generator slide uses the same control board so if something happens I can get by.

Thanks, but I own a Safari haha. Appreciate all your suggestions.
I am not convinced it's totally fixed. I see some questionable wiring in the main fuse box and I am going bypass the salesman relay.
The board had no power at the onboard fuses and new relays didn't change that, so I have to conclude the board was toast. All things considered a very inexpensive fix. As mentioned I am going to order a spare because I do not want this happening when I am on the road.