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Iceclimber · 01-21-2022, 10:51 AM

Yesterday, put slides in all is well. Went and got fuel

This morning two rear slides extend ok fine. Front slides not moving and not trying - meaning the lights are not dimming when I hit the switch. Now one of the rear slides is out and will not move. The one rear slide acts totally normal.

Checked fuse #22 for the slide relay. Bounced the house breakers, house battery switch and inverter.

Any ideas ?

jacwjames · 01-21-2022, 11:37 AM

My slides are controlled by a circuit board with relays and fuses on it, looks something like this http://www.nwrvsupply.com/product/KIBSOC1020AWD.html

There is a fuse and a breaker type fuse along with relays. I have to replace the smaller fuse every once in a while.

Also, on the front slides there may be a basement door not completely closing, mine has an inhibitor switch for each door and one of mine has a tendency to stick. I have to go outside and slam it shut every once in a while.

Iceclimber · 01-21-2022, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

My slides are controlled by a circuit board with relays and fuses on it, looks something like this http://www.nwrvsupply.com/product/KIBSOC1020AWD.html

There is a fuse and a breaker type fuse along with relays. I have to replace the smaller fuse every once in a while.

Also, on the front slides there may be a basement door not completely closing, mine has an inhibitor switch for each door and one of mine has a tendency to stick. I have to go outside and slam it shut every once in a while.

I looked at the doors for wires, didn't see any Let me go slam them all.

I found the power gear controller box (it's getting 12v) and there is a in line fuse I have to take apart here in a second.

I am also curious about the stupid salesman switch. My 12v system is all showing continuity, but not 12v across the main marine fuse or anywhere else it seems.

jacwjames · 01-21-2022, 12:08 PM

Can you tell if the solenoid that the salesman switch controls is latching? Do you have a meter to check across it. They are known to go bad, some people just bypass them by either removing and bolting the leads together or putt in a jumper across.

jacwjames · 01-21-2022, 12:13 PM

Inhibitor switch looks like this and would be mounted at the top somewhere.

http://www.nwrvsupply.com/product/9269-BX.html

Last time I had a problem with one I had just pressure washed the compartment area (fuel & propane tank). I just bypassed it to get the slides to close and used compressed air to blow it out. That fixed the problem but I ordered a spare inhibitor switch just in case.

Iceclimber · 01-21-2022, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

Can you tell if the solenoid that the salesman switch controls is latching? Do you have a meter to check across it. They are known to go bad, some people just bypass them by either removing and bolting the leads together or putt in a jumper across.

I will go pull that in a second. Slammed all the doors and just to test I left doors open underneath the only working slide and it moves.
Super weird that one slide works and 3 do not. The only protection the slides I am away of is the ignition key. The slides will not move if that is on. Tested that too, and the one good slide would not move.

jacwjames · 01-21-2022, 12:32 PM

Do you know the make/model of the slide manufacturer??

Electric or hydraulic?

Do you have an electrical schematic for your rig??

Iceclimber · 01-21-2022, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

Do you know the make/model of the slide manufacturer??

Electric or hydraulic?

Do you have an electrical schematic for your rig??

Electric - power gear. The controller box by the inverter does have a glass fuse that appears to be intact and as mentioned the controller box does have 12v to the board. Yes I have the schematic and used it to find my way around, but don't really know much about relays or what to look for.
I don't think the salesman switch has ever worked and I don't think that is it. I am still hung up on why 2 slides would work (1 then stopped) and the others do not. Just to mention again it's not even trying meaning no feedback from the electrical when I hit the switch.

I searched everywhere for inhibitor switches and found zero.

jacwjames · 01-21-2022, 01:58 PM

My rear slide does not have any doors underneath and aren't affected by the inhibitor switches in the front.

Do both front slides work off the same switch, or are there multiple switches?

Your system is different then mine so I'm running out of ideas. You might try putting a meter on the controller. Does it look like this, there's a wiring diagram showing control wires, it does show an inline fuse or power to the switch. You might check the switch itself to see if it's the same and look for a fuse. https://pdxrvwholesale.com/products/...version-510116

Iceclimber · 01-21-2022, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

My rear slide does not have any doors underneath and aren't affected by the inhibitor switches in the front.

Do both front slides work off the same switch, or are there multiple switches?

***Each slide has one switch for 4

Your system is different then mine so I'm running out of ideas. You might try putting a meter on the controller. Does it look like this, there's a wiring diagram showing control wires, it does show an inline fuse or power to the switch. You might check the switch itself to see if it's the same and look for a fuse. https://pdxrvwholesale.com/products/...version-510116

That is not my style. I will post a picture

I do see a breadcrumb in the schematic of the power gear controller box. Says "25 amp mini brkr r.electrical box. " and I don't know where that is. The drivers side electrical hosts a 15 amp mini labeled "slide relay"

Assume that could mean "rear" electrical box ?

**
Disregard I found two fuses on the board and they both tested for continuity.

Iceclimber · 01-21-2022, 04:26 PM

Dunno if I am on to something but the battery cutoff in the main fuse box had a blown 7.5 amp fuse. I replaced it, but nothing has changed. The salesman switch has never done anything for me - meaning on or off everything still works in
the coach 12v wise - not quite sure what that blown fuse hints at.

I am 100% vexed mostly due to once slide working and 3 not. Just makes no sense. It acts like it's the ignition safety but that would stop all 4 slides.

Any advice on how to get that stuck out side in - I probably need to take it to a 12v specialist.

Jim_HiTek · 01-21-2022, 04:40 PM

Sounds like a cluster of bad GROUNDS.

Find the ground point for the system. You're bound to have several solenoids/relays, and their grounds may all go to a stud on the frame. Find that and whack it with a rubber mallet. Very satisfying to do that. Then check your slides. That fixed mine for a while many times until I found and made a new ground stud attachment. No problem since.

Iceclimber · 01-21-2022, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_HiTek

Sounds like a cluster of bad GROUNDS.

Find the ground point for the system. You're bound to have several solenoids/relays, and their grounds may all go to a stud on the frame. Find that and whack it with a rubber mallet. Very satisfying to do that. Then check your slides. That fixed mine for a while many times until I found and made a new ground stud attachment. No problem since.

Interesting idea. Last night when backing in the driveway I scraped the coach into the ground a little. Maybe that did it. Too chilly for driveway antics tonight, will take a look in the morning.

Iceclimber · 01-21-2022, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

Can you tell if the solenoid that the salesman switch controls is latching? Do you have a meter to check across it. They are known to go bad, some people just bypass them by either removing and bolting the leads together or putt in a jumper across.

Jim do you mean in the fusebox ? I think that whole arrangement is dumb and would eliminate it for sure.