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Old 12-29-2009, 05:06 AM   #15
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Don,

I run VMSpc on my small Netbook and just set it on the dash. I know I should get a mount for it, but I do not run it all of the time and I am Lazy! You do need the cable/box and it is also somewhat expensive. I found a used one on this site and bought it. You have to make sure that you have the same pin configuration if you buy a used one.

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I am so glad to read this thread. We just bought a 2006 Endeavor with the 400 ISL. I kicked myself all the way home for not paying more attention to the dash gages when I was test driving it. Oil pressure was low end of scale, water temp was high side of scale, and AT temp was very low. The engine has 30k miles only; Lack of any numbered scale on the dash gages and no Aladdin system didn't help either. Our Destiny with a spartan chassis had very good VDO gages that spoiled me I guess. So now I feel a lot better. I ordered the silverleaf VMSpc system yesterday and now in process of deciding what kind of monitor to get and how to mount it. Thanks again for all the info. Keep the pics coming on any monitors/ mounts/ etc.
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I am so glad to read this thread. We just bought a 2006 Endeavor with the 400 ISL. I kicked myself all the way home for not paying more attention to the dash gages when I was test driving it. Oil pressure was low end of scale, water temp was high side of scale, and AT temp was very low. The engine has 30k miles only; Lack of any numbered scale on the dash gages and no Aladdin system didn't help either. Our Destiny with a spartan chassis had very good VDO gages that spoiled me I guess. So now I feel a lot better. I ordered the silverleaf VMSpc system yesterday and now in process of deciding what kind of monitor to get and how to mount it. Thanks again for all the info. Keep the pics coming on any monitors/ mounts/ etc.

I would bet that you have a ground problem on the dash gauges, the ground bar is probably on the fire wall under the dash, this is a common complaint on the Monaco coaches. I had the same problem on a 99 dip.
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Cummins ISL oil pressure specifications are located as the last entry in the Useful Specs table HERE.

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I am so glad to read this thread. We just bought a 2006 Endeavor with the 400 ISL. I kicked myself all the way home for not paying more attention to the dash gages when I was test driving it. Oil pressure was low end of scale, water temp was high side of scale, and AT temp was very low. The engine has 30k miles only; Lack of any numbered scale on the dash gages and no Aladdin system didn't help either. Our Destiny with a spartan chassis had very good VDO gages that spoiled me I guess. So now I feel a lot better. I ordered the silverleaf VMSpc system yesterday and now in process of deciding what kind of monitor to get and how to mount it. Thanks again for all the info. Keep the pics coming on any monitors/ mounts/ etc.
chattacuda,

Just up the road from you near Knoxville. After the engines warms up the oil pressure gage on our Diplomat with the ISL reads quite low. At first I was alarmed by this but saw a posting that said this was normal on our Diplomat. That is one of the reasons I wanted the VMSpc. The viliv 70 I purchased to run the VMSpc is pricey but I was attracted to it because of the car mount. I had and old GPS mount in the junk drawer that I was able to modify to mount the viliv just above the dash. I am still playing with it but so far am pleased.

Here is an important thing I just remembered that might save you some frustration. If the monitor you choose assigns a Com Port number higher than 9 the VMSpc will not work. I had to force Windows to assign a lower comport because it first came up with 11. I had several days of frustration before I found that out.

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[QUOTE=nodine;604821]chattacuda,

Just up the road from you near Knoxville. After the engines warms up the oil pressure gage on our Diplomat with the ISL reads quite low. At first I was alarmed by this but saw a posting that said this was normal on our Diplomat. That is one of the reasons I wanted the VMSpc.



Bob what is your oil pressure reading on the Silverleaf, is it higher than the gauge?
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Bob this is on the VMSpc forum, but I will paste it here on how to adjust for fuel milage and ect.

We just came back from 3500 mile trip and according to VMSpc with no
multiplier or offset we got 12 MPG, but by Flying J's pumps I calculate
9.74 MPG. This seems to be more in line with the 13% figure but still
low. The speedometer is much closer to the VMSpc reading. 12875 miles
on the speedo and 12928 on VMS. Accordin to our numbers our en ine is
about 23% "0 timistic" with the fuel. The speedometer/odometer readings
are so close that there is no point in trying to correct them. (Keep in
mind that you will get some variation just from things like the tire
pressure.) So we will leave the speed and odometer alone, and adjust
just the fuel items. Let's start with the Rolling MPG, Fuel Rate, and
Instant MPG. Start the Parameter Editor (VMSedit), and enter the
following Multipliers: - For Rolling MPG and Instant MPG -> 0.81. -
ForTuel Rate -> 1.23 Leave the Offsets at zero. Now lets take care of
~ the trip odometers. In VMSpc, in,the Advanced menu, set the Fuelmeter
multiplier to 1.23.
Posted by: Martin According to your numbers, your engine is about 23%
"optimistic" with the Perlot Ie> fuel. The speedometer/odometer readings
are so close that there is no point 09/22/2003, in trying to correct them. (Keep in mind that you will get
some variation just from things like the tire pressure.) So we will
leave the speed and odometer alone, and adjust just the fuel items.
Let's start with the Rolling MPG, Fuel Rate, and Instant MPG. Start
the Parameter Editor (VMSedit), and enter the following Multipliers:
- For Rolling MPG and Instant MPG -> 0.81, - For Fuel Rate -> 1.23
Leave the Offsets at zero. Now lets take care of the trip odometers.
In VMSpc, in the Advanced menu, set the Fuelmeter multiplier to 1.23. 12 Divided by 9.74= 1.23 Fuel Rate 9.74 Div by 12= .81 instant and
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chattacuda,

Just up the road from you near Knoxville. After the engines warms up the oil pressure gage on our Diplomat with the ISL reads quite low. At first I was alarmed by this but saw a posting that said this was normal on our Diplomat. That is one of the reasons I wanted the VMSpc.



Bob what is your oil pressure reading on the Silverleaf, is it higher than the gauge?
Walt,

We are pleased so far with the VMSpc and the MPG appears to be correct with the exception that the generator is not included in the fuel consumption.

I belong to the SilverLeaf forum and have read the post you made below. If you would like to see what my VMSpc installation looks like I just made some photos for chattacuda. You can view them here:
VMSpc installation - iRV2.com RV Photo Gallery=

I forgot to answer your question about oil pressure. The pressure is about 70 pounds when the engine is cold and drops to around 59 pounds after warm up. That is from memory and since I have CRS I may have to correct them after the next time I start the engine.

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Bob what is the idle pressure ?
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Bob what is the idle pressure ?
Walt,

To make sure I give you a correct answer I will start up the ISL this weekend and take a reading for you. I believe the 59 pounds was running down the highway. Sorry for my CRS.

P.S. I am at work so will make a note now to remind me to do that. Darn CRS.

Oh, by the way, I don't crank the ISL to often without planning to take the rig out because my two dogs go crazy because they think we are going on the road. They are worse than the wife and I about wanting to get on the road. I hate looking at the disappoint in their eyes when we don't go. They can hear the ISL a mile away.

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Bob what is the idle pressure ?
Walt, as promised here ya go:

Outside temperature this morning so the engine temp was cool:




Oil pressure on VMSpc was 67 lbs with engine temp of 141 at 1187 RPM:



Droping the engine back to idle gave 49 lbs at 141 degrees on the engine:



With the engine at idle and the oil pressure at 49 lbs this is what the dash oil pressure showed:




Hope this is what you were looking for.

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Thanks Bob i was just curious since Garry's ISL oil psi runs very low at idle.
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