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11-20-2012, 05:24 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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ADVICE! Extending slides with AIR only leveling
All,
I have read extensively here and other sites about the Monaco recommendation to extend the slides at "ride height". Most all of these threads and posts ultimatly end up with a unit that is leveled with jacks. I have no jacks.
I park and push automatic leveling and then moments later the air suspension provides me a level coach. I have then extended the slides and consistently DO NOT require any re-leveling.
MY QUESTION and CONCERN: I have found myself in situations where the parking spot leans to the point where I need to use the manual air leveling process. If I were to extend the slide with that lean it would significantly strain the mechanism where when it is leveled there is smooth operation. So I am stumped as to what to do.........Please advise.
thanks
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11-20-2012, 05:43 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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I carry boards to drive up on to help level at ride height before letting the coach do its magic.
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11-20-2012, 05:46 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Appalachian Campers
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I just extend my slides then hit the "magic button" and let the coach level itself, been doing this since 2007 with no problems.
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11-20-2012, 05:51 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club
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We have air leveling on our Windsor and I closely questioned the techs at Monaco, Coburg, about when to run the slides out and in. They said that the slides could be run out or in whenever the coach was level. That makes sense since the air leveling system makes the coach level in the same manner whether it's in the travel mode or parked. i.e. inflating and/or deflating the various air bags to adjust the coach's attitude.
That said, I did not ask them about what to do in circumstances such as you describe. We have never had an occasion where the air leveling system did not automatically make the coach level. I'd e-mail or call Coburg just to make sure.
877-466-6226 or orservice@navistarrv.com
FWIW
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11-20-2012, 06:05 PM
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Senior Member
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My 03 dynasty 42' has a tag and air only leveling. I keep 4 2x12s 18" long in the front of the gen. If I have the bad luck to get a site that is more than 2" out of level I just put boards down or stack them and get it level. I out of habit press the auto level button then when all the yellow lights go out I turn the key off and I tell the boss that she can put the slides out. Don U
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11-20-2012, 06:47 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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I have air only on my 05 dynasty w/4 slides. I always run the slides out at ride height and then hit the level button. I also start up before leaving the site and get the coach to ride height and then bring in the slides. Never had a problem with slides binding, scraping or sticking. Always work as advertised. Here is the a quote from the owners manual for a 2008 dynasty:
"CAUTION: Never move the motorhome with any slide room extended. Perform the slide room operation with the air suspension system full".
On a side note: When I contacted the techs shortly after I bought the coach, I was told the slides were assembled when the coach was at ride height and should be extended and retracted at ride height.
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11-20-2012, 06:52 PM
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On my 08 Camelot, I level (air only), then put out the slides. Never had an issue. But the manual says opposite.
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11-20-2012, 06:53 PM
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If you have the "Valid" air-only system the manufacturer and Monaco originally intended for you to have the slides out - then do a "auto" level. My understanding of the system is that it first attempts to level to the lowest corner of the coach not the other way around. It may just be that the system does not have the travel movement to lower the coach (level it) on the uneven sites that you are choosing. So it stops short of the task, then you do the manual level as you are describing.
Personally, If I was in a situation where the air levelling couldn't do its thing to make our Scepter level, I would pick another spot - or start blocking.
Adam.
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11-20-2012, 06:59 PM
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Also, I have found that if it says "slope" when you try you auto level, you can press auto about 3 more time and it will start to level. I have to do this in my driveway. I end up out one dot front to back, but plenty level for me and the fridge.
I have not seen this "feature" in the documentation.
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11-21-2012, 03:58 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Interestingly the DVD that came with the 05 signature states
Raise the air bags using the leveler
Extend the slides then auto level
In reverse
Start the coach raise the airbags
Turn off the coach
Bring in the slides
Sounds crazy to me cause the coach could have a twist in it or Kay over one side
I've always leveled first to put out the slides.
But I hadn't thought of raising the airbags first - and frankly see no reason other than if the stern was high to start with and you crush the stone guard.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that was the procedure Monaco taught.
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11-21-2012, 08:01 AM
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Steve that is interesting because for my 2004 Signature with no jacks it says to level the mh first then deploy slides. Then when I leave I suck in the slides then go to Travel Mode. My guess is that it really doesn't make much difference as long as the mh is not on too much of a slope. It doesn't appear that the airleveling system puts the mh into a bind like the jacks do. My previous mh had jacks and I could put that chassis into a real bind if I wasn't careful. So much so that it was difficult to open or close doors. I have heard horror stories on windshields popping out when using jacks. Air leveling is a lot more gentle way to level the mh.
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11-21-2012, 08:25 AM
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Works either way BUT....if you are on a site that is very far off level and one corner is all the way down it could create a bind for the slides. Realize that even though the airbag looks like it has air in it, there is a hard cone inside that the coach may be resting on.
I'm not picky about "full air up" on a pretty level spot, but on one that has bags really full on one corner and really low on another I air up and then pull slides in.
On another note my buddies 10S he has to have the engine off to pull slides in. Mine is wired so I can crank, air and pull slides in last, drive off with the engine idling. His is an 03, mine is an 06 just more Monaco weird stuff. Both are air only rigs.
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11-21-2012, 08:33 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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Here is an addendum to the original owners manual I found for the 2006 Dynasty/Executive hydraulic leveling.
http://www.monacocoach.com/StaticFil...6_Dyn_Exec.pdf
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11-21-2012, 08:44 AM
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Junior Member
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Location: Sherrills Ford, NC
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Stumped as well
We also have no trouble just hitting the button and letting the coach do its thing. My question is: do you extend slides prior to leveling or after?
Owners manual says extend slides first-we have 4 slides?
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