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Old 10-14-2007, 07:49 AM   #1
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How often are you using this mode and where, city, highway, towing? I was told by the dealer tech it's not worth using. Opinions, pro/con.

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How often are you using this mode and where, city, highway, towing? I was told by the dealer tech it's not worth using. Opinions, pro/con.

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Old 10-14-2007, 08:09 AM   #3
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I don't see any difference. It shifts faster into 6th Gear. I never use it.
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I use it quite a bit, mostly in hilly terrain. I saw an addendum from Monaco that says it is not activated on the Diplomat/Endeavor and below but I don't believe it. There is a hilly 30 mile stretch of road that I am often on and I notice that with economy mode on the transmission does not downshift on the majority of the hills. I can't tell you if I actually see an increase in fuel mileage but it stops the transmission from hunting and constantly downshifting and upshifting.

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Old 10-14-2007, 08:26 AM   #5
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I use it when the Allison wants to hunt between two gears on a grade or at a certain speed.

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Well does it hurt anything to leave it on all the time? I'm new to DP, so do not know what to look for, but I leave mine on all the time down here in flat country. Havn't had a chance to get up in the hills yet. ss/Toby
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:26 PM   #7
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Toby,
I leave mine on all the time. I will shut it off if I'm in stop/go traffic. I will also shift to neutral if I have to sit in traffic, takes load off the engine.

I will usually go econo mode as I go up the on ramp to a freeway and will leave it there until I'm back into city/slow driving. It doesn't hurt.

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Old 10-15-2007, 02:22 AM   #8
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I use the economy mode most of the time on freeways. With our coach it will stay in sixth gear on most rolling hills. If we get into steeper hills or in town I leave it off to allow the trans to downshift sooner and give us the power we need. I am not sure we get better fuel mileage with the economy mode, but as one of the other posters said it minimizes "hunting" between gears on hilly terrain.

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Old 10-15-2007, 06:24 AM   #9
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Thanks for the info. I'll start cutting it off in city traffic and turn it on the other times.
I still have not got the feel for the surge brake. Dont know if it works right or not. We got our coach this year, so its been sitting on the dealers lot for over a year when they were not trying to sale it. so dont know if the gizmo arm is working right or not. When I turn it on and let off on the gas, it seems all it does is down shift the xmission. Is that right? Toby
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:40 AM   #10
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">When I turn it on and let off on the gas, it seems all it does is down shift the xmission. Is that right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Toby,

Funny you should mention that. I'm thinking the very same thing about my coach. I have no indication that the exhaust brake is actually working. Can't hear or feel it. I asked the dealer to check it out, and they said it was working fine. I'm still not convinced.

I'm hoping others with Exhaust brakes will lend some insight here. Can you feel or hear it working?
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:54 AM   #11
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You will definetely know when it is working. You can hear the engine noise and feel the deceleration. If you have your foot on the brake, just enough to illuminate the brake lights, the exhaust brake will not work. I use it all the time on the road but not in town because it is too loud and most cities prohibit their use.
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I agree with you. I also asked my dealer in Ga. to check it out and they said it was working fine. But all I'm feeling is the gears downshifting. I had two class 'As' before this but no diesel. I really do not like the feel. It is a little rough shifting down, but not when I'm driving regular. Our back-up camera is acting up again, so when I get over this chemo head, we'll probable take it back to the dealer. Although we havn't been to wildwood lately, none with this MH, we might get it down there and camp at club Monaco and have them ck it out. I have another qx about breaking, but I'll start another tread for it. s/Toby
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Our Time:
You will definetely know when it is working. You can hear the engine noise and feel the deceleration. If you have your foot on the brake, just enough to illuminate the brake lights, the exhaust brake will not work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Our Time,

I've never heard the loud engine noise, or felt anything but the transmission down-shifting. I do hear a slight rise in RPM's as the downshift occurs. That's why I asked the dealer to check it, but I'm wondering now if they actually did.

Are you saying that you can tell a difference between the exhaust brake WITH the transmission downshift, and just the downshift alone, by only drepressing the brake peddel a slight amount to engage the transmission only and not the exhaust brake? I thought they were both triggered by the activation of the brake light switch.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:43 PM   #14
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It has been my experience that a downshift usually occurs immediately after the brake engages.(usually coming out of 6th gear) I can't say I have noticed a RPM increase from the Pac brake. You will definately hear the engine noise while the brake is engaged.The transmission will contine to downshift as the speed decreases. I guess a good test would be to lock the transmission in a range, say 5-4 and engage the exhaust brake and notice the difference. Kind of hard to explain, but you will know when it's working. Hope this helps.

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