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Old 06-03-2020, 09:50 AM   #1
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Bed Struts 2004 Windsor PDQ

The P.O. installed a Tempurpedic mattress that is heavy as heck. It makes it all but impossible for me to lift up alone so all that space is wasted. Has anyone upgraded the gas struts and has it helped. What sized did you order. Thanks.
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Old 06-03-2020, 01:16 PM   #2
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Are your struts under the bed mounted similar to this? (close to the top of the bed frame box)
This is the way mine came from the factory.Click image for larger version

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If so, Monaco didn't think when they designed the struts placement. When the bed is down, the struts are nearly horizontal and even though they are fully compressed, they are trying to push the bed horizontal, not vertically, so You're doing all the work for the first foot or so.
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Old 06-03-2020, 01:43 PM   #3
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I dropped mine down. This way the strut is trying to push the bed up when compressed, helping you push it up. the problem is the bed box is hollow and there was not enough support so I installed some sheet metal and then attached the strut to that. Really makes a difference and the DW can get the bed up on her own.Click image for larger version

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The struts I used now are signature series ST309p-120 SIGNATURE SERIES GAS SPRING

I'd consider going to a heavier than my 120# if your mattress is that heavy.

Jim J did a hydraulic set up (from my memory). I haven't seen it, but it sounds interesting. Maybe he will come along here.....
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I dropped mine down. This way the strut is trying to push the bed up when compressed, helping you push it up. the problem is the bed box is hollow and there was not enough support so I installed some sheet metal and then attached the strut to that. Really makes a difference and the DW can get the bed up on her own.Attachment 288119

The struts I used now are signature series ST309p-120 SIGNATURE SERIES GAS SPRING

I'd consider going to a heavier than my 120# if your mattress is that heavy.

Jim J did a hydraulic set up (from my memory). I haven't seen it, but it sounds interesting. Maybe he will come along here.....

Thanks. I have the same problem and now that you mention it mine are installed the same as yours were. If I relocate in a downward arc and add a plate as you did I might even be able to use the originals. I will try it that way first anyway.
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I actually used an 12 volt actuator the same length as the strut and mounted it on one side. I left the original struts in place so the actuator just helps the process. It has a wireless remote so it's pretty easy to lift the bed. We installed a foam topper with the mattress so it is heavy but the actuator works.

Here is an actuator similar to the one I got, not sure of the length though.
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I ran a power supply from the passenger side electrical bay through the engine compartment and then under the bed. I did rig a quick release pin to disengage the actuator just in case, never had to use it yet.
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I actually used an 12 volt actuator the same length as the strut and mounted it on one side. I left the original struts in place so the actuator just helps the process. It has a wireless remote so it's pretty easy to lift the bed. We installed a foam topper with the mattress so it is heavy but the actuator works.

Here is an actuator similar to the one I got, not sure of the length though.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14mm-s-18-D...gAAOSw8mtciwR~


I did rig a quick release pin to disengage the actuator just in case, never had to use it yet.
Hey Jim,

I'm curious, when your bed is down, how long does it take the actuator to lift it up?
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Just from memory maybe 5 seconds or less. Not enough time to worry about.
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Try Hatchlift.com If you use the chart,you will get correct angle etc...
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Our tech, who I've used thru 3 rv's and trust explicitly, said don't add a heavier lift for ours because the frame on our 43dft would not support it... so adding some support to spread out the load is a good idea !
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Thanks. I have the same problem and now that you mention it mine are installed the same as yours were. If I relocate in a downward arc and add a plate as you did I might even be able to use the originals. I will try it that way first anyway.
You can try swinging the frame part of the strut down, and it should work. The only issue is the bed probably won't go up as high as your use to now.

It's worth a try. And then you can also see if the strength of your current strut is adequate.
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Our tech, who I've used thru 3 rv's and trust explicitly, said don't add a heavier lift for ours because the frame on our 43dft would not support it... so adding some support to spread out the load is a good idea !
I also wonder if the bed might not rise up when hitting a large bump.
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You can try swinging the frame part of the strut down, and it should work. The only issue is the bed probably won't go up as high as your use to now.

It's worth a try. And then you can also see if the strength of your current strut is adequate.

That could be. Would shifting the attachment forward the same amount as down help that?
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That could be. Would shifting the attachment forward the same amount as down help that?
It might, but you'll have to play with it. The farther forward you push it, the move force it's going to take to lift the bed. It takes a lot more force to lift the bed the closer you get to the hinge.

I can't move mine forward because of the way the bed frame is built. Your's might be different. Your signature says you have a national tropical, but I would guess the strut isn't going to be strong enough to lift the bed.
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