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Old 06-02-2016, 04:19 PM   #1
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Cabinet to Ceiling Separation

Hello - I have 2002 Windsor that one of the front cabinets is starting to separate from the padded ceiling - about 1/16th of an inch.

My question is: what are the screws that go up into the ceiling screwing into ?

The ceiling plywood (at the nearby flouresant light) is quite thin. Is there a steel or wood header that supports the weight of the cabinet ?

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Old 06-02-2016, 08:55 PM   #2
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Alan,
I have a 2002 Windsor also.

I replaced my front analog TV with an LED and took the time to take a good look at everything. There are a couple of heavy metal angle iron or tubing that span across the front ant the cabinets are fastened to.

If you still have the analog TV it is not hard to remove. If someone has already replaced with a flat screen you should be able to visually see what the cabinets are fastened too by looking up. The used some metal strapping and screws on either side of the opening.

While I had the TV out I took an 8' piece of insulation and put it across the front cap behind the cabinets, it seems to have help the amount of heat the migrates through. The LED TV doesn't generate a lot of heat so that also helps.
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Thanks Jim - my TV cabinet has been previously removed and shortened to accommodate the flat screen. As you say, I can see how it is mounted.

The cabinet of concern is the one above the passenger seat. Since my post I have removed the decorative trim just inside the top inside of the box. The cabinet is constructed of a wood skeleton with a an oak face and interior trim panels (probably a light weight construction technique).

With the trim removed I can see that there is only two screws holding it up - although I can two other empty holes where I would expect to see attachment. It must of been this way since birth. I am surprised that the separation didn't occur earlier.

What I don't know is what am I screwing into. The TV cabinet seems to have some sort of metal backer (a magnet will stick to it) and the 2 inch screws penetrate the metal. It is a pretty thin, maybe sheet of metal. The TV screws penetrate without pre drilling with wood screw.

Right now I have the side cabinet pushed up with a 2 by 2 and small screw jack on the second entry step. I will assume that the TV mounting surface extends around the cockpit area and the side cabinets are secured in the same manner. Tomorrow I will get some 2 inch screws that have a broad head (the skeleton wood is very soft) and put two screws in the unused holes. If this seems to hold it, I will add at least three additional screws for insurance.

Your comments would be most welcome.

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The 2002 Windsor has a full steel cage shell, it is the same construction as the Dynasty on up. It is the last model year it has this type of construction, after that it was aluminum.

There are probably more supports spaced across the roof to tie the sides together. Don't know how you could tell where they are, you might check the other side to see what is holding it up, measure and check to see if they are spaced the same.
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Hello Jim - as you suggested, I compared the screw placement on the cabinet on the other side over the drivers seat. That cabinet has all three screw locations populated however they are not in the same place (as measured from the face of the AV cabinets).

I added the missing screws to the passenger side cabinet and the cabinet sucked up to the ceiling as it should. It amazes me that 2 or the 3 screws were missing. For good measure, I added an additional 3 screws.

I cannot say what the screws attach to but I can say they feel the same the ones in the TV cabinet and they definitely tighten down (like the TV cabinet).

Thanks for your input.

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