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Old 04-27-2019, 05:48 PM   #1
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Coach won't start

Frustrating day! Tried starting today. Nothing....

Hopefully without getting too long I will try to provide as much background that I can recall

We returned north and started getting the Coach ready for the season. It is stored indoors and I do not keep it plugged in during Winter storage so I remove the battery cables from all of the batteries. I checked the water level and voltage on the house batteries and connected them. Chassis batteries are sealed so checked the voltage and then connected them. House batteries (8) are two years old. Chassis batteries (2) are approx six years old. I turned on both disconnect switches and plugged the Coach in. Charger came on fine and the display showed a 36 amp rate and it was quickly dropping back. A couple days later I went down to work on the to do list. Charger is in maintenance mode. Tried to start Coach. With key in the run It cycled though it's normal startup routine. Turned to the start position and nothing. In the start position the radio, Alladin screen and Garmine go off. Can't recall if this is normal. Also notice that the Allison transmission display is blank. Only the red mode light comes on and it goes off when turning the key to the start position. I tried the rear start switched I get the same result. I tried the battery boost switch while starting, again the same result. I checked the function of the Big Boy relay. It is only 2 years old and it is working properly. I also noticed that when turning on the headlights the dash gauge lights don't work and it appears the electronic gauges are not functioning either. No voltage or odometer displayed. All fuses in the drivers side bay look fine. Salesman switch is on and functioning properly.

I appreciate any direction that can be provided

Thank you!
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:03 PM   #2
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I had a similar situation a few years ago. I had disconnect the battery cables for winter and when i reconnected them in spring, i had simalar symptoms as you. In checking things over, my daughter said sarcastically, might help if you reconnected ALL wires. And low and behold, she was right.
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:10 PM   #3
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Thank you. I did check them about a dozen times. I did install a new Alladin monitor just before I put it to sleep in December. Wondering if I could have bumped something behind the dash.
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Does the generator start?

You might try checking all the grounding points for the battery cables. They do get dirty or corroded.
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:36 PM   #5
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You need to put a voltmeter on the starting batteries while someone tries to crank it.

The Big boy solenoid could still be bad even if it is only two years old. A heavy duty jumper cable is a good bypass test if needed.

Starting at the batteries is always the place to start and you cannot rely on hearing clicking noises from the bird relay.

You may need to crawl under and chase the battery cables to the ground connections.
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The generator starts fine. Battery cables are in excellent condition as is the connection points. Went through them all about 3yrs ago and I am a fanatic about battery cleanliness and maintenance.
Thanks for the input!
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I'm not sure what is causing the electrical problem but I am quite certain you won't get the engine to crank until you get the shift pad to come to full life. There has to be a neutral signal coming from the trans before starter solenoid will engage. It seems to me that the trans circuit has its own wire from the starting batteries (keeping power to the trans control module at all times) but not positive about that.
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Thanks. Your point makes sense for sure. I will check tomorrow again for an additional wire that I may have overlooked.

Thanks much!
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Similar thing happened to me. We had the coach in storage for a few weeks with no electrical hookup. I had turned off everything I could think of when I put her to bed, including the inverter, battery shut offs, and salesman switch. Batteries were fully charged going into storage.

When we got to her she would not start. Inverter read house batteries were deader than dead. Like 10 volts.

I managed to get the motor and genset started. It took about an hour or so before things started working inside the coach. I later determined the house batteries were not holding a charge and replaced them. No problems since.
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Thanks to all of you guys for your replies and advice. To those who suggested looking for a cable that was not hooked up, you were right. Despite the fact that I looked at the batteries multiple times I overlooked a small gauge connection that had dropped behind. Duh. To help this from happening again I zip tied the cables together that go to the same post. So thankful it was that easy.
Thanks again to all of you for chiming in to help me out.
That ends my stupid Steve moment of the day.
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Glad it was that simple and all worked out for you. Happy travels
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Yes. A bit relieved. After checking and checking the last couple days I was starting to think all kinds of thoughts. Towing, who could I find around here that would have a clue about this complex coach and of course the $$$. Whew!!

Thanks once again to one and all!
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Ahh, now take some pictures for future reference. This happens often. Glad you found it.
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When MasterTech installed my new life line batteries awhile back they crushed a small ground that went to the ecm. No ecm power no neutral check. No neutral checkó no start.
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