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Old 06-01-2020, 08:41 PM   #1
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Considering a 2003 Panther with 150K miles? Input appreciated

I may need to be slapped but we are considering a 2003 Safari Panther 4013 with 150k on it. We checked it out today while looking at a '06 Country Coach. We dug the layout of the Panther and the quality of the coach in general. Surface level you would not think it had 150k, it was much cleaner than similar coaches we've been looking at with 40-85k on them. Here' a link to the rig: https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/200...013-5012051272

Obliviously we would do a thorough inspection, looking for someone in the Salt Lake area, pull oil samples, etc. I crawled through the coach some and checked the roof which looked really good, very clean and kept up.

What should I be looking for above and beyond on a coach with so many miles on it? How long do brakes typically last on a rig like this? It needs tires, batteries and rear slide awnings.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
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I may need to be slapped but we are considering a 2003 Safari Panther 4013 with 150k on it. We checked it out today while looking at a '06 Country Coach. We dug the layout of the Panther and the quality of the coach in general. Surface level you would not think it had 150k, it was much cleaner than similar coaches we've been looking at with 40-85k on them. Here' a link to the rig: https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/200...013-5012051272

Obliviously we would do a thorough inspection, looking for someone in the Salt Lake area, pull oil samples, etc. I crawled through the coach some and checked the roof which looked really good, very clean and kept up.

What should I be looking for above and beyond on a coach with so many miles on it? How long do brakes typically last on a rig like this? It needs tires, batteries and rear slide awnings.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
I would say 150k miles is average or a little below for a 2003 Motorhome. I would be more concerned if it had less miles. When mileage is low it means the coach has been sitting unused a lot. That is much worse on the life of the coach than it being used regularly. The chassis and engine combos of these Monacos were designed for 500k - 1M miles. So I wouldn’t be concerned about the mileage specifically.

Maintenance and records are important and any history that the previous owner can provide. Not just for the drivetrain, but also the generator and Aqua-hot service history too. Checking for any water ingress is important. Condition of air bags and brakes should be checked for sure.

PS welcome to the forums! You have come to the right place.

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https://www.rvroundtable.com/wp-cont...03.panther.pdf

There is a link to the original brochure for a 2003 Safari Panther.
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Thank you Josh, appreciate the input and brochure.
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Nice looking coach, the floor plan with the midentry door does provide for a lot of living space.
If you are respondsible for new tires, battery, and awning you should negotiate the price down to ~$50K.

Mileage wouldn't concern me as long as the coach was taken care of. Typically if the coach as been kept up cosmetically like this one it probably was taken care of mechanically. A good inspection has to include a complete fluid analysis as this should tell you the general health of the engine/transmission/generator.

Brakes are dependent on the driver, someone who uses excessive braking and doesn't take advantage of the exhaust/engine brake will wear out brakes quickly.

My wife initially did not use our exhaust brake, out of desperation I finally explained that the exhaust brake saves the brakes and that if she didn't start using it she would pay for the brake job.

I have 107k miles on my coach and it hasn't been used much in 4 years as I have been building a new house (doing most of the work myself). I inspect my brakes every time I'm under the coach and my observation is the brakes are still 75%, with plenty of meat still on the brake shoes.
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A lot of good things going for it: 03 is before Cat had to pollution up a good engine. Many 03 Monaco had only a 18” deep L R slide out. With only one LR slide the Girard awning is much longer... more covered outdoor area. No window over the head of the bed... not cold in the winter and less noise from your neighbors. Not sure the TV is big enough.

With the Jake brake the brakes should still be in good shape...easy enough to check visually.

Often the slide awnings can be re-sewn as the fabric is still good plus there is enough unused to even cut the used portion off.

Check the bottom corners of the slides for separation and rot. Right angle plates available if separation only.

With good maintenance records and oil samples I would not worry about 150K.

Here is a recent thread on tires that would be worth reading although it has different options on putting a 315 tire on a 8.25” rim. With no front steps, clearance should not be an issue plus with only one front slide, weight should not be an issue... weighing is always a good idea once loaded up for travel.https://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/tir...de-489976.html
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