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Old 08-28-2016, 07:09 PM   #15
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BioborJf is in a different chemical group altogether. This chemical has been used for years to keep algae from growing in diesel tanks. If you leave your coach in storage for periods of time BioborJF is good insurance. It definitely works. Power Service is mostly alcohol.


IMO your a wise man.

It's right up there with A/C stop leak.
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Dr4Film (Richard) - I have thought the biodiesel adds lubricity to the USLD, however the emulsified water in biodiesel can be a concern (reduced fuel efficiency?). I have used Stanadyne lubricity formula (concentrated form) for a number of years for the dual function lubricity adder and water de-emulsifier. I do not subscribe to the "increased fuel efficiency" from additives (i.e. cetane boosters). Have you ever compared Diesel Kleen to other additives for function/performance, specifically Stanadyne concentrated lubricity? My past number crunching showed my Stanadyne concentrated lubricity added a cost of about 4cents/USgal. Diesel Kleen similar?

I started using lubricity adders when I drove a diesel with the HP fuel pumps from Bosch (Ford 6.4). I did not want to take any chance with piling up the pump and replacing/flushing the entire fuel system. Now that I have a late 2016 400ISL I believe the lubricity adder is not required. Your thoughts?
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I have not tried any other additives except for the Diesel Kleen mixed with the Biobor JF so I cannot comment on any other additive and how effective it is compared to others.

I have an older ISC-350 so I am not familiar with the aspects of the ISl-400 or ISL-400-2 which came a little later.

Hopefully someone with an ISL-400 or 400-2 will chime in.

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Old 08-30-2016, 08:11 AM   #17
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I got a tank of bad fuel from a Love's. Had to treat it to kill the microorganisms. I bought Diesel Mate and their Biocide. Worked as I was told it would, had the fuel tested after 36 hours of not moving the coach, my Cetane went up 5 points no more micro organisms (had it tested by a different co, just to be sure I wasn't getting snowed). I am still sucking the crud into my filters, and I am sure I will be for a little while longer. I run the Diesel mate all the time now at fill ups. Older engines need the lubricant the newer ones can benefit from it but its not so critical.
We have been experimenting at work (over 1000 road tractors) and we have noticed an improvement with MPG and the drivers have passed comments on how much better the tractors seem to run (not knowing we put additives in the tanks). The one comment made from the drivers was "my tractor doesn't regenerate as often now, any idea why?"
We are looking into adding an auto dispense system into our fuel racks at each location and purchasing it by the drum. ULSD has less lubricant, when you add a Bio blend you get some of it back, but here is still a high sodium content within the new diesel fuel that is hard on older design pumps and injectors.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:37 AM   #18
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just thanks to all the posters ; very informative
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Most of the posters have pre DPF MH's. If one has a MH with a DPF using any of the magic additives can cause the DPF to plug!
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:48 AM   #20
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Most of the posters have pre DPF MH's. If one has a MH with a DPF using any of the magic additives can cause the DPF to plug!
Wrong information! All Power Services products (including Diesel Kleen) are safe for ALL diesel engines, including engines with DPF, DEF, EGR, SCR, etc....

I cannot imagine any manufacturer of diesel additives would make something that would harm emission control devices on any production engine. If you have research that shows additives plug DPFs I would like to see it; otherwise your claim is anecdotal.

Link here.

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Anyone have any experience with Power Service's Diesel Kleen?
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Every tank full I use it, never had any assues, and used it on my Dodge diesel trucks for years, it does work, or has for me
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Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

This is the scientific study I made my decision from. Optilube is second, Diesel Kleen is farther down. Make your own choice. I was interested in the best lubriciity adder with Cetane improvement second. I run Optlube with a maintenance dose of an algecide.
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Most of the posters have pre DPF MH's. If one has a MH with a DPF using any of the magic additives can cause the DPF to plug!
Could you tell us why that is the case, the manufacturers don't say that, have you experience of this happening?
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When I make my decisions to use supplemental diesel fuel additives for whatever reason? I always take a hard look at a companies background and when doing so.

Stanadyne has been making diesel HP pumps and HP injectors for the leading diesel manufactures for over a hundred years.

I would be willing to bet that Stanadyne see and do more controlled study injector pump and injector wear analysis and failure analysis in a week than most additive companies do in five years. I would not be the least bit surprised that that most additive companies sub contract out what little studies that they do....if any.


Also when doing in house controlled studies, they also KNOW the long term effects of the chemicals used in their products on other components in the fuel system.

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BioborJf is in a different chemical group altogether. This chemical has been used for years to keep algae from growing in diesel tanks. If you leave your coach in storage for periods of time BioborJF is good insurance. It definitely works.

Power Service is mostly alcohol.
I think you had better do more research on the product Diesel Kleen before spouting incorrect information.

It CLEARLY states "Does not contain alcohol of any kind".

Here is the MSDS for Diesel Kleen if you care to read through it for alcohol content.

http://powerservice.com/wp-content/u...2016-FINAL.pdf

And here is the Tech Bulletin for more reading.

http://powerservice.com/wp-content/u...TB-3800_V1.pdf

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Good friend of mine own a diesel repair shop. He mostly sticks to Fords because he used to be the lead tech at a Ford dealership. He says he has only uses the Diesel Kleen in his stuff but not for mileage. He says the benefits of lubrication far outweigh the mileage factor. Injectors are expensive. That's pretty much the only reason I use it. If it gets me a little better mileage then that's just a bonus. Just my thoughts.
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A year ago our number 5 injector when bad. Cummins did the 1500.00 replacement. Since then I have been using Standyne at ever fill-up. The power feels better, the engine appears to run smoother, and fuel mileage is noticeably better. Now all of these improvements could be due to a full complement of functioning injectors--but I will not go without Standyne. And Stanadyne is available at about all AutoZones part/supply stores.
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