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MonacoMama · 06-08-2008, 01:03 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bandmbrown:
sort of new to this. would someone please explain the "protect the windshield" thing.
Thanks </div></BLOCKQUOTE>bandmbrown...I don't want to hi-jack the thread... so I just want to do a quick...
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OK..what the others meant by that is that many new Monaco coaches have the single glass windshield. Some folks have had a problem with the one piece windshields cracking due to the position the coach is in when the coach is leveled and in which technique is used when the coach is leveled.
I am not sure that answers it very well...I am sure one of the others may explain it differently...

BudtheDiplomat · 06-08-2008, 01:32 PM

The levelers are an interesting thought if you are going to remain where you are, idling with 1/4 tank; but you cannot drive away with the levelers down, and they were up when the motor died. You were in a catch-22. Good thing you had a fall-back like Coach Net.
With 1/3 fuel tank, my Gen Set died going UP the Mississippi bridge in Baton Rouge. It was 90+ degrees out. - I feel your pain, but I'd rather have my problem than yours! A genny is much easier to prime, I think...

NeilV · 06-08-2008, 06:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BudtheDiplomat:
The levelers are an interesting thought if you are going to remain where you are, idling with 1/4 tank; but you cannot drive away with the levelers down, and they were up when the motor died. You were in a catch-22. Good thing you had a fall-back like Coach Net.
With 1/3 fuel tank, my Gen Set died going UP the Mississippi bridge in Baton Rouge. It was 90+ degrees out. - I feel your pain, but I'd rather have my problem than yours! A genny is much easier to prime, I think... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It might stay running long enough to drop the jacks and get back on level ground again.

My old coach allowed you to adjust the air bags to deal with tight spots where you needed to lean the coach to get through or the ground was too soft for the jacks. That was a JetAir equipped coach.

Robin_M · 06-09-2008, 05:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Greg from Almanor:
When I told my son about this he said the same thing-"Why didn't you use your jacks?" I did not think about it the time, I admit, but even if I had, I don't know that I would have tried. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Precisely. Why mess with jacks? If you knew your fuel pick-up would have been sucking air with the engine running, you'd have simple turned off the engine first.

Sorry it happened, but thanks for the valuable lesson.

BudtheDiplomat · 06-09-2008, 04:34 PM

NeilV;
Your jacks must come up faster than mine, which take maybe a full minute or two to retract. On a 10 degree grade, I'd be very reluctant to pull back UP or DOWN onto a road surface without the jacks being fully retracted. Fuel, even at these prices, still cost less than bent hydraulic jacks.

Moreover, on a 10 degree grade, you'd have to empty the airbags so that the lower side jacks could reach the ground and raise the coach. Now you're running the engine to 'air up' as well as raise the levelers.

I thought about what you wrote prior to my initial post, but considered the above and wondered, 'if the engine already died, what are the chances that it would remain running long enough after repriming, then to air up and levels up and then pull on the road.

On the other hand, what's to lose! You're already stuck. I guess I'd take the gamble but not without brakes (air pressure) or levels up.

NeilV · 06-09-2008, 06:03 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BudtheDiplomat:
NeilV;
Your jacks must come up faster than mine, which take maybe a full minute or two to retract. On a 10 degree grade, I'd be very reluctant to pull back UP or DOWN onto a road surface without the jacks being fully retracted. Fuel, even at these prices, still cost less than bent hydraulic jacks.

Moreover, on a 10 degree grade, you'd have to empty the airbags so that the lower side jacks could reach the ground and raise the coach. Now you're running the engine to 'air up' as well as raise the levelers.

I thought about what you wrote prior to my initial post, but considered the above and wondered, 'if the engine already died, what are the chances that it would remain running long enough after repriming, then to air up and levels up and then pull on the road.

On the other hand, what's to lose! You're already stuck. I guess I'd take the gamble but not without brakes (air pressure) or levels up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My previous coach was JetAir equipped although it was a gas coach. I had the option of leveling the coach with either the jacks or the airbags. The compressor was electric and the reserve tank had pretty good capacity. On that coach I would have jacked up the bags on the downward side and then tried to prime the engine and crawl off the slope back onto the level ground. Then I would put the system back on automatic.

I guess not all air systems allow this level of override.