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Old 10-05-2011, 06:42 PM   #1
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"Door Holder-Opener Arm"

Sorry, but I couldn't think of a more technically-accurate term for it, so let me explain....

I have an '06 Endeavor, and it has the 2-piece scissors-acting door arm/closer at the top. To date, I've had to replace the arm twice, and pound the rivet tighter more than that, to keep the door from swinging shut in the slightest breeze.

Somewhere I've seen discussion about replacing it with a better type, but can't find it now (I'm thinking it was using a piston-arm - similar to the bed-lift kind). Or maybe it was on another brand coach? And for that matter, Monaco itself must have come up with something better over the ensuing years.

I really don't want to replace/fix it again, only to have to go thru it again in the near future.

Any ideas/suggestions?
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Not only has Monaco not come up with a better system the New Monaco is still using that same door arm on 2012 models !!
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that's funny, our "Door Holder-Opener Arm" will get stuck holding the door open. You have to reach up and tap the middle point to get it to start collapsing...
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that's funny, our "Door Holder-Opener Arm" will get stuck holding the door open. You have to reach up and tap the middle point to get it to start collapsing...
Ya, ours is like yours. It really "disturbs" the DW. On my list to fix.

So.... what was the best way to fix this peice of junk?
It looks like the rivet is very loose.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:03 PM   #5
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So.... what was the best way to fix this peice of junk? It looks like the rivet is very loose.
A friend of mine has an air chisel. Took it over to him and he used a flat headed bit to hammer the rivet tight. Has worked like a champ for the last 6 months.
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I drilled a 1/8 inch hole through the middle of the rivet. Then placed the arm over my vice with the jaws just a bit wider than the 1/8 inch. Using a drift punch inserted in the hole I tapped it until it tightened up nicely. Then I inserted a pop rivet from the bottom of the hole. The rivet keeps it tight and the little extra bump seems to help hold it open.
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Ours is not a technical explanation either BUT:
at the rivet we bent the short (overlaping) arm toward the other arm... Only 2-3 degrees with locking pliers - that was 3 years ago and it still works as intended
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For those whose arm sticks in the open position. DO NOT touch that arm. It is working well. If you loosen it then you will be on this forum wondering how to fix a much worse problem!!
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Ours is not a technical explanation either BUT:
at the rivet we bent the short (overlaping) arm toward the other arm... Only 2-3 degrees with locking pliers - that was 3 years ago and it still works as intended
Mine has been loose for the past 2 yrs. After reading this fix I went out to inspect it. It has a buldge in one of the arms that fits into a recess in the other arm. I took pliers and bent the arm with the buldge up, so it would fit into the recess tight. Works great. Will see how long it lasts.
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Sorry, but I couldn't think of a more technically-accurate term for it, so let me explain....

I have an '06 Endeavor, and it has the 2-piece scissors-acting door arm/closer at the top. To date, I've had to replace the arm twice, and pound the rivet tighter more than that, to keep the door from swinging shut in the slightest breeze.

Somewhere I've seen discussion about replacing it with a better type, but can't find it now (I'm thinking it was using a piston-arm - similar to the bed-lift kind). Or maybe it was on another brand coach? And for that matter, Monaco itself must have come up with something better over the ensuing years.

I really don't want to replace/fix it again, only to have to go thru it again in the near future.

Any ideas/suggestions?

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For those whose arm sticks in the open position. DO NOT touch that arm. It is working well. If you loosen it then you will be on this forum wondering how to fix a much worse problem!!
I disagree. When we bought our coach, the arm would hold the door open (regardless of wind or anything else) until a human tried to close it, and then it would just release and close.

Sticking open and requiring someone an inch taller than my wife to reach up and pop it is new.

Also the rivet is obviously loose.
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I drilled a 1/8 inch hole through the middle of the rivet. Then placed the arm over my vice with the jaws just a bit wider than the 1/8 inch. Using a drift punch inserted in the hole I tapped it until it tightened up nicely. Then I inserted a pop rivet from the bottom of the hole. The rivet keeps it tight and the little extra bump seems to help hold it open.
I like this fix.

Typically fixes involving bending things, or beating on rivets, are temporary at best. This one sounds like it would actually expand the diameter of the rivet and hold things tighter, might even be permanent!
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I like this fix.

Typically fixes involving bending things, or beating on rivets, are temporary at best. This one sounds like it would actually expand the diameter of the rivet and hold things tighter, might even be permanent!
Regarding bending:
If 3 (three) years is temporary..... I vote for temporary!!
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Hmmmm. Good point.
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