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03-24-2015, 10:54 AM
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Front cap to roof joint
I cant positively see where the two join on this new coach  .
There's a transition from smooth painted glass (black in my case), to white textured glass, about 5' back from the windsheild, but unlike my last coach, theres no raised seam with screwed strip, covering a joint.
Is this the joint?
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03-24-2015, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 96 Wideglide
I cant positively see where the two join on this new coach  .
There's a transition from smooth painted glass (black in my case), to white textured glass, about 5' back from the windsheild, but unlike my last coach, theres no raised seam with screwed strip, covering a joint.
Is this the joint?
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96 Wideglide
The "front cap to roof joint" is where the smooth fiberglass cap meets the textured fiberglass roof....(guess where the rear cap to roof joint is).
Mel
'96 Safari
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03-24-2015, 01:41 PM
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Kinda what I thought Mel.
So, they dont seal this seam in any way from the factory   ?
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03-24-2015, 09:21 PM
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Monaco repaired many 2007 & 2008 Scepter/Camelots, including mine, at the seam between the cap and roof. A hairline crack will develop at this seam and run over the radius down the side upper moulding. This happens at both the front and rear caps/roof and the hairline would continue to grow to a sizable gap.
They would grind out the seam, feather edge it back a ways, and fiberglass the roof to the cap. Thent hey would Bondo, sand, prime and paint to match. From what I heard, Monaco used only a filler and not fiberglass. But, again, this is hearsay as how they attached the parts.
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03-24-2015, 10:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Happycarz
Monaco repaired many 2007 & 2008 Scepter/Camelots, including mine, at the seam between the cap and roof. A hairline crack will develop at this seam and run over the radius down the side upper moulding. This happens at both the front and rear caps/roof and the hairline would continue to grow to a sizable gap.
They would grind out the seam, feather edge it back a ways, and fiberglass the roof to the cap. Thent hey would Bondo, sand, prime and paint to match. From what I heard, Monaco used only a filler and not fiberglass. But, again, this is hearsay as how they attached the parts.
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96 Wideglide
Since your HR is really a Monaco, (with a HR title), the roof seams are probably the same as Happycarz' roof seams and may need to be taped with Eternabond.
Mel
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03-25-2015, 02:04 AM
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Yep Mel, it's almost exactly the same.
I'm battling a leak running down the passenger window, but it's not the window. It's coming from somewhere on the roof.
I flooded that seem today, and could'nt get it to leak at the inside bottom of the window. Later, poured water over the Hadley's, and got leaking. Sealed up the Hadley's good, tonite it's raining, and the leak is still there !
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03-25-2015, 02:54 AM
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Harry, I dont think mine has seen any of the extra fixes from Coberg.
I think it crossed the border to Canada after it was built, and it's never been back!
I was passing thru that area last month, and got new steer tires installed at Les Shwab in Junction City  . I think she cried a bit as she passed by her birthplace
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03-25-2015, 08:31 AM
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Front cap to roof joint
Quote:
Originally Posted by 96 Wideglide
Yep Mel, it's almost exactly the same.
I'm battling a leak running down the passenger window, but it's not the window. It's coming from somewhere on the roof.
I flooded that seem today, and could'nt get it to leak at the inside bottom of the window. Later, poured water over the Hadley's, and got leaking. Sealed up the Hadley's good, tonite it's raining, and the leak is still there !
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Check the winegard crank-up tv antenna. I found that it had been caulked at the factory in the "down" position and there was no caulk under the arm. The water got in there and traveled some 3 or 4 feet before it showed up at the drivers side window.
Dick L. '04 HR Imperial
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03-26-2015, 12:19 AM
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Both mine and my friend's 08 Scepter had a roof leak at the front of the patio awning attaching flange on the roof. Climb up on the roof and locate the metal flange that attaches to the roof with a million screws. This works loose and water enters coach and runs horizontally until it drips inside. My buddy's was by the pass window. Mine was by the windshield. Both leaks were coming from same entry point.
Scrape the Dicor away from the flange for the first 3 feet. Remove the screws, clean with som MEK, if you can find it. Or, use another suitable solvent. Roof must be dry and oil free for the Dicor to seal. You may find some of the attaching screws pulled loose. Use either larger screws or drill new locations. Before screwing back down, caulk with Dicor between the flange and roof. Then screw the flange down. You should be able to see the caulking squish out as you tighten. Just don't over tighten and strip the hole in the fiberglass roof. Finally, coat the top of the flange where the screws are and also fill in the leading edge toward the front.
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03-26-2015, 09:53 AM
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That was the first place I looked at, and that seem did have some cracking of the Dicor. Makes sence since last month my awning blew out, traveling into high headwinds. Thought I'd resealed it pretty good, but I guess I should remove all the old, and get some fresh under the flange like you did.
Thanks.
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