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01-11-2022, 01:13 PM
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Junior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 15
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GFCI requirement/recommendation
Hello,
Battling a GFIC tripping problem when on the ME2012 inverter. It will just pop with nothing running that I am aware of. Samsung RF197 residential frig with icemaker off and have checked the defroster heater resistance and it is at the recommended 10-150 ohms. The frig will not pop a GFIC at home when plugged in directly and will not trip the coach frig breaker when plugged into the 110 outlet. It is just a problem on the inverter outlet. I have opened the outlet and all is well.
The GFIC is a Levitron. I, at one point, saw a short list of the GFIC's that are recommended in a thread here somewhere but now I can't find it. Replacing the Levitron seems like a good place to start.
Any help is appreciated. We are trying to boondock in Quartzite next week.
jeff
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2007 Monaco Knight 40, 350 Cummins ISC, 58K miles
Henderson, NV
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01-11-2022, 02:47 PM
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Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
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We recently had lightning strike our RV shed and it took out one of the square D gfi circuit breakers. It was doing the same thing you described. I was told that if one of this ciruit breakers was tripped by a lightning strike then it should be replaced. We have two so I replaced both. Be prepared for some sticker shock, because they are about $100 a piece. Lowes didn't have the correct one and I had to go to a electric shop.
I don't know exactly how to test them, but it seems that putting them in another working circuit breaker box and finding out if it still trips might be a good place to start. Hope this helps.
Dennis
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Dennis, Sheila, Lola & RJ (Havanese)
2003 Monaco Windsor 40DST
2014 Durango
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01-11-2022, 03:37 PM
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Junior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 15
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GFIC
My understanding is that you can't just use any GFIC in the 2007 ish Monaco's due to the old inverters tending to trip the GFIC's. The current one works fine but seems to be tripping even with no load. I will keep searching for the short list. Thank you
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2007 Monaco Knight 40, 350 Cummins ISC, 58K miles
Henderson, NV
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01-11-2022, 04:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,076
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RDGreenlief
We recently had lightning strike our RV shed and it took out one of the square D gfi circuit breakers. It was doing the same thing you described. I was told that if one of this ciruit breakers was tripped by a lightning strike then it should be replaced. We have two so I replaced both. Be prepared for some sticker shock, because they are about $100 a piece. Lowes didn't have the correct one and I had to go to a electric shop.
I don't know exactly how to test them, but it seems that putting them in another working circuit breaker box and finding out if it still trips might be a good place to start. Hope this helps.
Dennis
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Any chance you have a number for the square D gfi breaker?
I have one that trips when on the inverter but I can't find a number on it. I bought one at Lowes that looks the same but it trips too.
Thanks in advance
Ray & Marilyn
03 Windsor
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01-11-2022, 04:32 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 20
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I think I understand what you’re saying it works on regular power but only trips when it’s on the inverter. I didn’t look up the type of inverter but it’s probably modified sign I don’t think GFIs work well on those
I’m not sure why the refrigerator would want or need to be on a GFI asking for nuisance tripping in my opinion maybe you could just run a new circuit or swap it to a different one
Residential construction building codes are required arc faults for all refrigerators and GFI‘s if they’re close enough to the sink it really is asking for trouble but that’s the new codes
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01-11-2022, 05:24 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 127
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Here is what the tech at Magnum Energy recommended to me:
Hubbell Wiring GFRST15W AUTOGUARD Commercial Standard GFCI Receptacle, White, NEMA 5-15R, 125 Volts, 15 AMPS
You can find them at at electrical supply house that carries Hubbell, or you can get them on Amazon or eBay.
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2006 Monaco Diplomat 40DST / 17 GMC Canyon
Marietta, GA
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01-11-2022, 08:46 PM
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Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RamiDav
Any chance you have a number for the square D gfi breaker?
I have one that trips when on the inverter but I can't find a number on it. I bought one at Lowes that looks the same but it trips too.
Thanks in advance
Ray & Marilyn
03 Windsor
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Ray;
I left the old one on the kitchen counter in the MH. Will get the number and post it tomorrow. I replaced what was originally there (a square D) with an identical square D.
Dennis
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2003 Monaco Windsor 40DST
2014 Durango
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01-11-2022, 09:34 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2019
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I had to change mine for the same issue. I used the hubbell and haven’t had to reset it once in the last 3 months full timing. Purchased on ebay
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01-13-2022, 11:30 AM
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Junior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Henderson, NV
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Thank you Hubbell it is.
Thank you Hubbell it is.
I will rip out the Leviton
I would be interested in the Square D model for my documentation. I assume that is the original from Monaco?
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2007 Monaco Knight 40, 350 Cummins ISC, 58K miles
Henderson, NV
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01-15-2022, 09:50 AM
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Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RamiDav
Any chance you have a number for the square D gfi breaker?
I have one that trips when on the inverter but I can't find a number on it. I bought one at Lowes that looks the same but it trips too.
Thanks in advance
Ray & Marilyn
03 Windsor
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Ray;
Sorry I've been so long in getting these pics to you.
Dennis
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Dennis, Sheila, Lola & RJ (Havanese)
2003 Monaco Windsor 40DST
2014 Durango
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01-15-2022, 12:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,076
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RDGreenlief
Ray;
Sorry I've been so long in getting these pics to you.
Dennis
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No problem Dennis. Thank you for going to the trouble
Ray & Marilyn
03 Windsor
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01-16-2022, 11:08 AM
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Junior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 15
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Hmmmm. I ordered a 15 amp Hubbell GFI. Is the original in the coach a 20 amp? I was going to install it today but I will wait for an answer in case I need to return it. Thank you for your help.
Jeff
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2007 Monaco Knight 40, 350 Cummins ISC, 58K miles
Henderson, NV
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01-17-2022, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 13,138
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Do you have a wiring diagram, for my coach all the circuit breakers in the inverter subpanel that feed the circuits are 20 amp. I have 2 GFCI circuit breakers in the subpanel, one for front kitchen and one for rear bath. My refrigerator/icemaker is not a GFCI.
Not sure on RV codes but in house construction the refrigerator circuit is not required to have a GFCI breaker.
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Jim J
2002 Monaco Windsor 38 PKD Cummins ISC 350 8.3L
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee w/5.7 Hemi
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01-17-2022, 10:55 AM
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Junior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Henderson, NV
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Thank you to Bob for this picture of his 2007 Knight which shows a 15 amp GFI in the bathroom. I think am going to move forward with installing this 15amp Hubbell and see what happens.
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Henderson, NV
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