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Old 04-15-2018, 01:07 PM   #1
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HELP, what just happened?

We have a 2006 Camelot with a Cummins 400 ISL. We are getting ready to leave on a trip this coming weekend and I thought I would check the fluid level of the hydraulic reservoir.

I loosened the "dip stick" cap and pulled out the "dip stick"...... to my surprise there was nothing there! Gasp! I immediately realized I was now holding the plastic cap fitted with a carriage bolt that used to be attached to....
a "dip stick" or ???. Imagine the sick feeling in my stomach as I try to imagine what hardware (nuts, washers, etc.) just fell into the abyss which is the 18" deep reservoir of ruby red ATF!

The situation is complicated by the the fact that our coach is backed into my friends RV garage. I cannot take a chance of staining the concrete floor in someone else's garage.

I ordered a oil transfer pump and hopefully I can suck the ATF out of the reservoir. The local Cummins dealer is closed until Monday.

Does anyone know what parts, pieces have fallen down into the reservoir???
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I don't think that I should start the engine until all of the loose pieces are recovered.

HELP!

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Old 04-15-2018, 01:11 PM   #2
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Our coach has the "tall" reservoir. Manual says the system holds 44 quarts of ATFClick image for larger version

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Old 04-15-2018, 01:12 PM   #3
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Try an extension magnet at most auto stores before draining. Probably all is the stick
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Old 04-15-2018, 01:13 PM   #4
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Get a telescoping magnet tool and fish it out.
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The filter will keep all large parts out of the hydraulic pump and in the reservoir.

EDIT: The top of the reservoir comes off at the level of the band clamp for changing the filter , so taking the fluid level down below the clamp , should give you the access to fish for the missing part if you can't retrieve things through the dipstick hole with a magnet .
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This is what dropped. Metal with a rubber grommet. Maybe 4" long. It's magnetic. I dropped it once. Usually from unscrewing the cap too much.

If you're lucky it landed on top of the top filter. Worse case is you have to remove all 3 filters to get to it. It's too big to get sucked out of the tank on the bottom.
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Old 04-15-2018, 02:05 PM   #7
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Bill,

You are a lifesaver!

Do I see an "O ring" in the photo?

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Old 04-15-2018, 02:17 PM   #8
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I removed the band clamp and the top of the reservoir. Unfortunately the dipstick isn't on top of the filters....darn.

To say a picture is worth a thousand words is an understatement in this case for sure.

I had (terrible) visions of 1/4-20 nuts, lock washers, etc. laying in the bottom of the reservoir waiting to cause havoc!

A 4" long magnetic dipstick with rubber grommet attached, and maybe a loose O ring should easier to retrieve. I hope.
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Windsorbill is correct , this is not a catastrophe it's an aggravation

You will need to remove the top cover then hopefully you can retrieve
it all with a magnet .
If that doesn't work there is a threaded rod coming up from the inside
bottom with 3 filters stacked on top of each other you can remove the filters and
reach down with your hand for the parts , messy but it'll wash off .
Have a plastic tub real close to put those filters in while you fish .
Rags , news paper and cardboard on the floor you should be ok .

The dip stick does not actually screw in but by screwing it down the rubber
is compressed causing it to swell and fit tight
It should be loosened just a little then pulled out .

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HELP, what just happened?

Since I just changed filters yesterday I thought I would go do a quick check on the plug.
As others pointed out it is just the dipstick with the rubber grommet , no washers or nuts.
On ours and the picture above the threads are crimped so it will not unscrew all the way out.
It has to be loose to install then tighten slightly to tighten rubber washer as Ray mentioned.
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You guys have no idea how much I appreciate all of the responses!

It looks like a "fishing trip" is in order for tomorrow.

Do you guys know if the Cummins Dealer might stock the filters?
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I did the same thing shortly after purchasing my coach, my dipstick was stainless steel so the magnet did not work. I was able to retrieve it with the filters removed. I purchased my filters from Napa. Good luck....
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Thanks for the heads up. If the magnet tool doesn't work out, I think I might try the claw type reach tool.

Good to know about NAPA. Were they able to look up the filter part number, or did you just take one with you to match it up? Were they in stock or did you have to order the filters? I'm not sure if I have enough time if they have to be shipped in before our scheduled departure on Thursday.
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You guys have no idea how much I appreciate all of the responses!

It looks like a "fishing trip" is in order for tomorrow.

Do you guys know if the Cummins Dealer might stock the filters?
Yup, Cummins,Detroit,NAPA, Fleet Pride or any of the class 8 truck shops or stealerships.
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