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08-16-2014, 08:21 AM
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Hydraulic failure - no steering or fans
Driving along yesterday when I lost power steering. I went a bit farther to get to where I could safely pull over and noticed the temperature rising too (fans quit). Initial checks showed nothing obvious - no lines blown, fluid level good, etc..
I was about 45 minutes from home and have no good service in the area, so had it towed to my home shop where I hope to repair it myself. Anyone ever experience something like this? Where do I start looking?
HW.
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08-16-2014, 09:26 AM
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If your hydraulic system is not low on fluid, you'll probably have to remove the pump for testing; maybe a local tractor shop; John Deere, Case IH ; can help , or at least tell you who can.
Pumps are usually , mounted to the back of the air compressor , and you will have to catch a lot of fluid when you remove it.
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08-16-2014, 10:13 AM
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HW the 96 Monaco Sig has a belt that pulls the Hyd pump and that could be your problem it could have broke, the tension adjustment is critical on that belt , the belt is a Gates 14MGT-1190-37, I will past a link to the belt.
http:// Gates 14MGT-1190-37 14MGT-1190-37. 9274-5085
I am not sure where you will have the round or square Hyd tank if round it will have 3 Hyd filters that may be plugged if belt is OK if Square most have one screw on filter.
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08-16-2014, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walt2137
HW the 96 Monaco Sig has a belt that pulls the Hyd pump and that could be your problem it could have broke, the tension adjustment is critical on that belt , the belt is a Gates 14MGT-1190-37, I will past a link to the belt.
http:// Gates 14MGT-1190-37 14MGT-1190-37. 9274-5085
I am not sure where you will have the round or square Hyd tank if round it will have 3 Hyd filters that may be plugged if belt is OK if Square most have one screw on filter.
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I have the square tank. Last winter I replaced the cooler and changed the fluid and spin-on filter. I'm going to pull into the shop later today. Will look for the belt drive. I didn't think it was belt drive.?? I will be a happy guy if it's just a broken belt!!
HW.
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08-16-2014, 11:13 AM
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HW it may not be belt drive but the 8.3 96 dyn was belt drive but not sure on your big engine coach.
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08-16-2014, 11:14 AM
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Pilgrimfarms same thing happened to my dad on his 95 Dynasty. Belt came off and disappeared. Stranded him by the road like you. He ordered 2 belts and always carried a spare from then on. If yours is like his it is a cogged belt and they run what would appear to the eye loose. Don't tighten it like you would a fan belt or you will need to install your spare belt real soon. Randy
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08-16-2014, 11:30 AM
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Just ran out to look. Belts are all in place. Guess it's time to look for the pump.
HW.
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08-16-2014, 01:10 PM
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There is a priority valve in the system with orings on it. Before you do too much, try calling Monaco with a description of your problem and ask them if they have ideas. Email me at slemnah@sbcglobal.net and I will send you some info on the hydraulic system.
Steve
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08-16-2014, 11:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slemnah
There is a priority valve in the system with orings on it. Before you do too much, try calling Monaco with a description of your problem and ask them if they have ideas. Email me at slemnah@sbcglobal.net and I will send you some info on the hydraulic system.
Steve
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Thanks Steve. I haven't had much luck with Monaco - seems my coach is too old, but I might try them again. I will check and see if mine has a similar priority valve setup. My coach is much different than a HR Imperial. This is the big Roadmaster chassis, but I'll check for similarities to the Spartan diagram.
HW.
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08-17-2014, 06:03 AM
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My bad, I thought you had the same Spartan Mountain Master chassis as mine imperial did.
Steve
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