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Old 04-06-2020, 01:01 PM   #1
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Identifying my '05 Monaco Windsor's lighting system "combined" or "separate" ?

Getting ready to install the Roadmaster Universal Wiring Kit with 7 to 6 wire cord (part number 15267). Has anyone installed this kit on a '19 Ford F-150?
I think I've identified the coach's and the towed vehicle's lighting systems as "separate" (versus "combined"). If that's the case, I may need to install a 3-to-2 converter to convert the (assumed) separate system on the coach to a combined system.
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See here for a map of signals to pins ("Vehicle Side 7-way RV Standard").

According to your coach's owner's manual (link here, page 49), the factory-supplied 4- and 7-pin hitch connector had the "standard" turn/stop signals. If the hitch connector has not been changed, then no converter will be needed.

Also per the manual, the factory-installed coach hitch connector shows no signals for 12V charge line (1 o'clock) or trailer electric brake (5 o'clock). Your coach is old enough that either of these two pins could have been connected/activated by prior owners.
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Old 04-08-2020, 08:33 PM   #3
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I have a 2006 Windsor and a 2015 F-150. My Windsor has separate brake and turn signals and the F-150 has combined brake/turn signals. When I connected mine I didn't need any converter. So unless your Windsor is different or Ford changed something between a "15 and a "19" you should be good to go.

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Old 04-12-2020, 08:54 AM   #4
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Getting ready to install the Roadmaster Universal Wiring Kit with 7 to 6 wire cord (part number 15267). Has anyone installed this kit on a '19 Ford F-150?
I think I've identified the coach's and the towed vehicle's lighting systems as "separate" (versus "combined"). If that's the case, I may need to install a 3-to-2 converter to convert the (assumed) separate system on the coach to a combined system.
Thanks
Thanks for the input so far.
Happy Easter !

So, regarding my 2019 Ford F-150 and the Roadmaster Universal Wiring Kit with 7 to 6 wire cord (part number 15267):

On the Right rear side of my F-150, I have determined though testing that both the green wire with the orange stripe, AND the green wire with the purple stripe are for the brake and right turn signal.
When I watch the video, he only talks about the green wire with the orange stripe. What about the green wire with the purple stripe?

Also, On the Left rear side of my F-150, I have determined though testing that both the gray wire with the orange stripe, AND the blue wire (with no stripe) are for the brake and left turn signal.
When I watch the video, he only talks about the gray wire with the orange stripe. What about the blue wire (with no stripe)?

Any further input on this?
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Old 05-01-2020, 09:45 AM   #5
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Thanks for the input so far.
Happy Easter !

So, regarding my 2019 Ford F-150 and the Roadmaster Universal Wiring Kit with 7 to 6 wire cord (part number 15267):

On the Right rear side of my F-150, I have determined though testing that both the green wire with the orange stripe, AND the green wire with the purple stripe are for the brake and right turn signal.
When I watch the video, he only talks about the green wire with the orange stripe. What about the green wire with the purple stripe?

Also, On the Left rear side of my F-150, I have determined though testing that both the gray wire with the orange stripe, AND the blue wire (with no stripe) are for the brake and left turn signal.
When I watch the video, he only talks about the gray wire with the orange stripe. What about the blue wire (with no stripe)?

Any further input on this?
Thanks
UPDATE:
When I connect the umbilical cord between coach and toad, running lights work as they should. Left rear turn signals work as they should, and brake lights left side on toad - both sides on coach). Right rear turn signals work on coach but not on Toad (and brake lights right side of coach but not on Toad).
I'm baffled. Any advice on troubleshooting?
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I like to start upstream and work downstream. Using a 12V test light or a voltmeter:

1) Test for correct signals at the coach hitch connector. If all the signals are OK there, then
2) Test for correct signals at the truck end of the umbilical, with the umbilical plugged into the coach hitch connector. If all the signals are OK there, then
3) Take the back off the truck hitch connector, so you have access to the pins. Plug the umbilical into the truck hitch connector. Test for correct signals there.

If you find the correct signals in every case after the three tests listed above, then the problem is in the truck. Continuing downstream, you would test at the socket of each lamp on the rear of the truck. An alternative would be to test where the wires enter the sockets, or where you attached the Roadmaster wiring kit to the truck wiring.
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Old 07-13-2020, 09:11 PM   #7
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2019 F250 here and I was just working on this this weekend. I identified the F250 as "combined" which to me meant that the brake light and the turn signal are the same bulb and use the same wiring.

There is a separate wire for the running light (same bulb).

I took this to mean that it was a combined system because their is no separate turn signal light.

Your F150 may be different? Or I could be wrong but that's the way I read the diagram.

Thoughts appreciated.
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