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Old 11-03-2017, 09:26 AM   #1
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Learned something new about HWH leveling

When I'm getting ready to pull out my normal procedure for the HWH air leveling system is as follows:

1. Start the engine and wait for the "low air" warning to stop.

2. Press the "Off" button on the HWH panel.

3. Wait for the "Travel" light to come on.

I thought at that point the air bags had returned the coach to the proper travel height. Well, today I was reading the HWH manual and found the paragraph below.

"The "TRAVEL" Light. This green indicator light will only
work with the ignition on. This light is on whenever the
ignition is on if the leveling system panel is off, provided there
is sufficient air pressure in the suspension. The "TRAVEL"
light only means the leveling system is off and the air system
has started to build air pressure. It does not mean the
vehicle is at the proper ride height
."

what do you make of this?
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:42 AM   #2
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It means that leveling system is deactivated. If the coach is at 70psi when light comes on it may take 95psi to fully inflate bags to correct ride height or you could have a mis adjusted ride height valve that keeps it from achieving correct height. Or the uneven surface you're parked on could not allow for all corners to achieve correct height. It's just letting you know it's not the culprit.
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:47 AM   #3
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Yep, I remember reading that too. I just visually check the height on my last walk around.
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:50 AM   #4
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The system will not let you know when the ride height is achieved. I can take a few minutes is the bags have been totally deflated. To get an idea on the timing needs start the coach and deflate all of the system. Then press the travel mode button and step outside and watch the height until is stops raising of put a measuring tape alongside to determine when it stops. It won’t take nearly as long if the system was already inflated but leveled on an off level site.
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Yep, I remember teading that too. I just visually check the height on my last walk around.

I will definitely be doing that from now on!
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:12 AM   #6
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A good way to tell if you are good to go is if your mudflat is off the ground
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:23 AM   #7
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A good way to tell if you are good to go is if your mudflat is off the ground
That will be an easy way to do it!
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Old 11-03-2017, 11:54 AM   #8
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Hi Joe

I 'm glad you found that , I made the same assumption .
Even tho the light doesn't really mean the coach has actually reached ride height
in my case it has always reached ride height by the time I could check things out .
But I will pay more attention now .

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A good way to tell if you are good to go is if your mudflat is off the ground
I don't have a mudflap but in any case, I don't move until I hear the air dryer pop off indicating I have full air pressure. Then it's safe to travel.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:52 PM   #10
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That wont work when you have air leveling Dennis.

I can fire up the engine and forget to push the 'travel mode' button on my leveling panel. Coach will build air and pop off air dryer, but my coach still wont be at travel height.
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That wont work when you have air leveling Dennis.

I can fire up the engine and forget to push the 'travel mode' button on my leveling panel. Coach will build air and pop off air dryer, but my coach still wont be at travel height.
Okay, different panel. Please disregard my comment.

I don't have a Travel Mode button.
My only indicator is Jacks Up and Air Pressure on the dash.
I bring in my slides, hit the store button and then start the engine. By the time the Jacks are all stored I have close to full air pressure.
If I don't have at least 90 psi I know my suspension is not complete.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:54 PM   #12
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My manual says you can "Press the Travel button" or "Release the Parking Brake". Either will put coach in travel mode. Note the third bullet point. Is this not the same for everyone with HWH Leveling system?

From 2005 Beaver manual:
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Preparation for Travel:
• Follow the procedures listed for "Retracting the Slide-out Rooms " in Section 5.
• Start the engine and allow the air system to fully pressurize (approximately 130 psi).
• Press the Travel Mode button or release the parking brake. The leveling system will automatically disengage. Before travel, the Master Waning lamp must be off and the Travel Indicator Light must be on. After the leveling system is set to travel mode, it takes about one minute for the suspension system to have sufficient air for travel. DO NOT solely rely upon the warning lights to indicate that motorhome suspension is ready for travel.
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My manual says you can "Press the Travel button" or "Release the Parking Brake". Either will put coach in travel mode. Note the third bullet point. Is this not the same for everyone with HWH Leveling system?

From 2005 Beaver manual:

Mike, read that last sentence again. It is not necessarily ready to travel when the Travel button is pressed.

"After the leveling system is set to travel mode, it takes about one minute for the suspension system to have sufficient air for travel. DO NOT solely rely upon the warning lights to indicate that motorhome suspension is ready for travel. "
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Joe I removed the yellow wire in rear run bay and now I can put slides in while the cummins is running and keeping batteries up to 13.8. This fixes leveling I put slides in, press off on air leveling, go disconnect the 110 volt cord walk around and make my last check. My coach is level oil pressure is stable, air bags all inflated and Ready to put in gear and release air brake and go down the road.

I put in N, set air brake, press level button two times and let it level, go plug in to 110. Then I put slides out make sure air is back up to 130 and shut it down.

My slide hyd motor draws so much it can take solar all day to get back up to 13.8.

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