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Old 09-02-2012, 09:39 AM   #1
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Leveling -- Air Up, Then Slides In?

Hello. Since we're relatively new to RVing, I'm continuing to read all that I can find regarding leveling -- in the Monaco owner's manual, on this forum, as well as others. It appears that one is supposed to air up and then bring in the slides when preparing for travel. Since owning our Executive, we've always brought the slides in before airing up. The reason is that we cannot retract the slides, or the awning, once the engine is running. Is this possibly a fluke with our coach, or do other Monaco owners have to turn off the engine once aired up in order to bring in the slides and the awning? Thanks.
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You can "modify" the system so you can bring in the slides with the engine running as long as the air brake is engaged. deSanford The downside of this is that you can drive with the slides out with the brake NOT engaged.
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Our Beaver is wired the same as your MH and the instructions are the same. We always turn on the engine to bring the air up and raise the jacks. Then we turn it off to bring in the slides. The reason I was given for this sequence is that you don't want to bring in the slides when there is a possibility that the chassis is torqued.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:26 AM   #4
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Ours isn't a Monaco but we have always brought in the slides first while coach is level. Why would it be torqued if it is level? Slides are put out last after leveled. Or are we wrong and why?
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"firedoc".....Your not wrong for your coach, but that is the wrong procedure for a Monaco coach. Every coach, but Monaco, has you put the slides out after you level. Monaco believes that when you do this, you're torquing the chassis to make it level and consequently your twisting the opening to the slides. Monaco installs their slides while the coach air bags are fully aired up and ready for travel. This method has been argued back and forth for years by people with other brands, but this is how Monaco recommends that you do it.

"Nink"....we have to shut the engine down to bring the slides in too. I think it might be a safety issue. I start my engine and as soon as I feel the coach start to lift, I retract my jacks. This keeps the coach from falling down on the airbags and getting that thud. Once I'm aired up, I shut down the coach and bring the slides in. I always leave my utilities connected until last. By leaving the power connected you get a little extra power to bring the slides in. It also keeps me from bending under a slide to disconnect my utilities.
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This is were I think Monaco is wrong. If you have a wheel or two sitting in a hole, you are torquing the chassis. Right? I would say level the chassis first, then open the slides.



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Note that this has come up many times before and from previous Monaco owner's responses, it's clear that Monaco does indeed recommend a different procedure than most if not all other manufacturers.
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Maybe so, but logic says it's not right to extend a slide with the frame tweaked.



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Slides in or out on air, jacks up or down anytime but when aired out, the jacks don't have to travel so far and have a better range of leveling. I don't always let the air out if traveling stops for overnight. I just drop the front jack until it contacts solidly and drop the rears. If the site is unlevel you may have to let air out anyway because the first step might be very high up if downhill in the front to start.
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Dunner.....That's where the argument comes in....who says the frame is tweaked. In full ride height position, the frame is straight and the suspension is adjusting for the holes. When you dump the air, you no longer have any suspension adjustment and the coach is sitting on the air bag stops. Now you're torquing the frame to make it straight.

The issue is not the leveling, but at what point the slides are pushed through the openings....when they're square or when they're tweaked on a frame that isn't supported by suspension.
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You can "modify" the system so you can bring in the slides with the engine running as long as the air brake is engaged. deSanford The downside of this is that you can drive with the slides out with the brake NOT engaged.
You can drive with the slides out even if you don't do the "modification". The system is set up to not let you deploy or retract the slides with the engine running. Having the slides out does not keep the engine from restarting. It is a safety setup for some of us "senior" citizens to remind us to turn the engine off when deploying or retracting the slides. Probably a good idea but it is a pain without the mod.
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Our coach is a 2000 Sig. (air leveling...no jacks)
The manual states....Level the coach then extend slide.
This info was actually an addendum to the manual.
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Don, I'm talking about a hole deeper than a 2x4.



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Entegra states, slides out, jacks down. Jacks up, slides in
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