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11-15-2011, 05:38 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
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Fred420.......The slides out first was primarily a concern for the DP coaches. Yours doesn't lower so not an issue.
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11-15-2011, 07:13 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Thank's Don that is what I was thinking.
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11-16-2011, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Snowbird - Waterford Mi and Citrus Springs Fl.
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Originally Posted by Fred420
My wife and I are picking up a 2006 LaPalma DP, 34', dual slides, non-air ride next week. My father has some health issues and has lost his license. We will be driving cross-country from Ca. to In. over Thanksgiving. He sent me the owners manual but it does not state slides in first or not. There is nothing in this manual concerning this. I have had the manual for 2 weeks now and am fairly familer with it. I have called Monaco twice and got 2 different answers. We have had other TT with slides and always leveled first.
Does anyone own this coach? We are confident in the other aspects of operation but do have this one concern.
Thanks for your time,
dave and lynn
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The assumption that the MH is square with the chassis at ride height is OK only as long as the coach is on reasonable even/flat ground, no? OK, admitted, that's going to work in most cases. Where I struggle, is in the case where the coach is on uneven ground - or obviously twisted (e.g. one front tire on top of a curb or some similar situation at a campsite).
This is where the "slides out first" instruction (if present) gives me pause. Logic wants me to level the coach (or somehow relieve that twisting imparted by the suspension?) prior to extending the slide, and who built the coach or wrote the manual is a moot point?
It's not really so much about level, as it is to eliminate/minimize any body twist while the slide is in operation? I don't believe this is going to make any difference air vs. spring suspension.... My opinion, FWIW
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11-17-2011, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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I follow my manual - Slides out while aired up (Slides out first); then dump air; then level.
Somehow this seems counter-intuitive, tho. The directions on the level pad states "Engine must be running to level." If the engine is running, the airbags are filling and now I'm "going back up!" Believe me, the compressor fills the air bags faster than the dump switch empties them.
The obvious choice is to just turn on the ignition switch and listen to the ding, ding, dinging. For years I did this, until the (emergency) battery replacement guy said this is BAD for the batteries, to discharge them that deeply.
BTW, I have the full wall slide. If I level first, then slides out, the big slide binds. Never does that if I'm aired up.
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11-17-2011, 12:18 PM
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When I'm parked in a campsite with electricity I shut off the motor go outside and connect all electrical cables and hoses etc. Come back in and put out the slides. Then I push my modified dump switch (I don't have to put the key in the ignition therefore NO BONGS) and dump the air. Now without starting the engine to get 12.5-13.5 volts I lower the Lippert jacks ( the converter is charging the coach batteries). All is well....when I leave the camp site I first start my diesel engine to warm it up and inflate the air bags. I go outside and disconnect all electrical cables and hoses, and dump etc. Now here is the BEST part.......I bring in the slides with the engine running ( I by-passed the slide relay and connected the wire to the air brake switch. So as long as the air brake is on I can bring in the slides). Now I DRIVE OFF now that is the way Monaco should have designed the system in the FIRST place. By the way after they have seen the light now they do the above for the new Navastar coaches. I could go on with other items I have had to correct, but this is the wrong thread for them. I will say my old Rockwood motor home was better though out by people who motorhome. I have never met a Navastar engineer who has a Monaco Motorhome.
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11-20-2011, 01:34 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: FL
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My HR manual says in a nut shell.
Slides out with air bags filled.
Slides in with air bags filled.
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Slides out, air out, jacks down (with air out the jacks don't have to travel as far)
Air up, jacks up, slides in.
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11-20-2011, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Where I struggle, is in the case where the coach is on uneven ground - or obviously twisted (e.g. one front tire on top of a curb or some similar situation at a campsite).
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My rational is the opposite. If I am on uneven ground it stands to reason that the jacks are going to have to do some twisting to get you level therefore slides out first as stated in manual. If I'm parked on level ground and minimal leveling is required, I put slides out after leveling.
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11-21-2011, 05:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monacoach
My rational is the opposite. If I am on uneven ground it stands to reason that the jacks are going to have to do some twisting to get you level therefore slides out first as stated in manual. If I'm parked on level ground and minimal leveling is required, I put slides out after leveling.
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I agree the jacks will impart a twisting action on the frame in this scenario, but they will be twisting it back into it's original shape (correcting for a previously twisted condition), leaving you with a level platform prior to slide operation?
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