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04-18-2014, 07:29 AM
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Monaco Camelot ?
Would you buy a Monaco Camelot with the Cummins 400 and the history of Monaco windshield issues?
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04-18-2014, 08:07 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,718
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We have a 07, 42' Camelot with 70,000 miles & have no windshield issues --I have air leveling,but some with hydraulic jacks have had some problems with the 3 point system twisting the front & poping the windshield -- I`m also carefull about going over curbs & such that may twist the coach -- William Willard
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04-18-2014, 09:26 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Chico, CA
Posts: 533
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We have a 2008 36 PDQ and LOVE IT!
400 Cummins is a great power plant.
Yes, I do have a crack in the upper drivers side window, but that was my fault. I crossed a speed bump at an angle and it twisted the frame. My bad.
We have hydraulic jacks, but I do not use the automatic level. I always level manually. Back first, then side to side with the back jacks, then I drop the front jack and level front to back. Works for me.
No problems.
Good luck,
Mike
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Mike G
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 - Freighliner
2022 F150 Platinum or 1973 Toyota FJ40
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04-18-2014, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Lake City, Florida
Posts: 111
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We have a 2007 Camelot 42PDQ and love it, no windshield issues. We also have air leveling.
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[B]Ron, Bonnie, Taz, and Jaz
[B]2018 Entegra Cornerstone
Lake City, Florida
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04-18-2014, 10:04 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Panama City, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeyG
We have a 2008 36 PDQ and LOVE IT!
400 Cummins is a great power plant.
Yes, I do have a crack in the upper drivers side window, but that was my fault. I crossed a speed bump at an angle and it twisted the frame. My bad.
We have hydraulic jacks, but I do not use the automatic level. I always level manually. Back first, then side to side with the back jacks, then I drop the front jack and level front to back. Works for me.
No problems.
Good luck,
Mike
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My user manual says to lower the front (center) jack first. This creates a pivot point to eliminate the chassis twisting. Then drop the rear jacks and level side-to-side and finally adjust the front for front-rear level.
I can see where raising the rear end and levelling side-to-side could cause twisting particularly as I have already dumped the airbags by then.
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Chris & Jo
2020 Forest River Sabre 38RDP.
2020 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD Duramax Dually.
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04-18-2014, 02:07 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Chico, CA
Posts: 533
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You're right Chris.
I had posted it backwards.
Front down to touch the ground, then a little more for a pivot, then back and side to side.
CRS kicking.
Mike
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Mike G
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 - Freighliner
2022 F150 Platinum or 1973 Toyota FJ40
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04-18-2014, 03:15 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ
Posts: 1,717
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeyG
We have a 2008 36 PDQ and LOVE IT!
400 Cummins is a great power plant.
Yes, I do have a crack in the upper drivers side window, but that was my fault. I crossed a speed bump at an angle and it twisted the frame. My bad.
We have hydraulic jacks, but I do not use the automatic level. I always level manually. Back first, then side to side with the back jacks, then I drop the front jack and level front to back. Works for me.
No problems.
Good luck,
Mike
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Wait?...what?..you cracked your windshield going over a speed bump?..I'm guessing that my coach and yours are pretty much the same. Do you have the rubber gasket/seal around your windshield also? If so, should I be worried about this?...I have air leveling so the 3 point jacks isn't an issue for me but I do go over speed bumps and up and down driveways at an angle quite a bit so as not to drag the front or rear.....
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2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4328 K2
2017 Grand Cherokee Summit 5.7
2008 Beaver Contessa 40' Pacifica 425 Cat
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04-18-2014, 10:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 127
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Is the windshield cracking issue only known to happen with one piece windshields?
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Larry and Kim
Monaco Camelot 38PST Big Blue
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04-19-2014, 06:06 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Off the road after 14 years full timing
Posts: 1,101
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We full time in a 2009 Camelot with the 425 Cummins. Both have worked well for us. The Cummins is so quiet back there it almost feels like an electric RV!
Never had any windshield problems (air leveling) and have been on some crazy angles. I try to avoid them, but sometime (like where I am now: a huge speed bump in the middle of a curve!) you can't avoid irregularities.
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04-19-2014, 06:55 AM
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Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 47
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I've got an 2006 38PDQ with 3 point hydraulic leveling. I just drain the air bags and auto level it. The front single comes down first then the rears. Generally, I've noticed that it gets it fore/aft level first then the rears move to solve left/right to do the final level. It doesn’t seem to put a lot of stress on the frame. I hear more creaking when I am draining the airbags as it settles off of them.
Love the motor. It does a great job with my size coach towing our Jeep Wrangler Unlimited.
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Don B
06 Camelot
12 Wrangler Unlimited
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04-20-2014, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Chico, CA
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Tankcj:
Yes, going over a speed bump at an angle. I wasn't paying attention and when the rears crossed the bump at slightly different times, it twisted the frame, cracked the upper left corner on the inboard lite of the laminated windshield. Yes, it is set in the rubber gasket.
It also threw all the clothes on hangers in the rear closet on the floor.
I knew better, but was not paying attention at that exact moment.
Always, always, always cross speed bumps at an exact perpendicular to the bump.
And cross VERY slowly.
Mike
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Mike G
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 - Freighliner
2022 F150 Platinum or 1973 Toyota FJ40
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04-21-2014, 05:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 4,034
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I don't know where the OP got his information re a windshield issue. There is no issue! We have an 08 Dynasty and the windshield is still original. All class A's are subject to windshield damage if the driver throws caution to the wind. We cross some crazy speed bumps in Mexico and have zero problems.
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Moisheh
2008 Dynasty 42' Diamond IV
1988 Bluebird PT38
2009 Silverado Toad
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04-21-2014, 06:55 AM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Manitoba,Canada
Posts: 2,789
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I didn't know that Monaco had windshield issues.
Jim
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2016 Creekside 23RKS
2012 Ram 2500 Laramie 4X4 Cummins 6.7L
Canada, eh?
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04-22-2014, 05:47 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 38
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Monaco Camelot ?
I back our 2008 Camelot into the driveway all the time with an angle at least as bad as speed bumps. I do have to manually air up the chassis bags to max so the receiver hitch does not drag. Not sure if it is related but we also have a bad wind noise any time there is a cross wind. It seems to come from upper corners of windshield but only in cross wind.
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Chet and Sandra
2008 Monaco Camelot 42PDQ
2004 Grand Cherokee
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