RV News RVBusiness 2021 Top 10 RVs of the Year, plus 56 additional debuts and must-see units → ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE OWNER'S CORNER FORUMS > Monaco Owner's Forum
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-14-2016, 11:30 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Windy City except during cold months
Posts: 29
Monaco Camelot 42DSQ pull F150 toad

Hi, I am buying a new 2017 Ford F150 and plan on pulling it 4 on ground as toad. There are numerous rigs that are available but rather ask for advice from those with experience which rig to use. Roadmaster, etc. Also besides the initial purchase of towing rig what else is part of the toad setup? braking, additional lighting?? Sort of a novice but want to do it right. Plus rather be knowledgeable prior to walking into a place and being sold a setup that is not ideal for my situation. I have a Monaco Camelot 42 tandem rear axle setup with a Hydralift mounted from frame to pull toad. Tried to attach pic of my upcoming F150, sweet truck!!

thanks for all the advice.

Stan & Andrea
(ready to leave frigid cold Chicago and head to the Keys)


SACIL9151 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 12-14-2016, 01:02 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
96 Wideglide's Avatar
 
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 6,957
Have you already confirmed a 2017 F150 IS flat towable?

You are going to be long . I tow a small Chev Sonic behind basically the same coach, with Hydralift, and I measure about 67'.
__________________
Ben & Sharon
2008 43' Holiday Rambler Scepter PDQ
96 Wideglide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 04:03 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
jacwjames's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 7,874
You will need to decide which brand/model of tow bar you like, this may dictate the rest of the set up.

I tow a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I goes into/out of neutral with the push of a small button. The steering wheel doesn't lock so I don't have to leave the key in the ignition.

I installed a Roadmaster base plate, did it myself, wasn't a bad job, it cost ~$400 about 6 years ago.

I have a Blue Ox tow bar, it it easy to hook up and it does stow behind the motorhome. I actually bought this off Ebay, it was in great condition and cost ~1/2 of a new one.

I installed a Brakemaster 9100 which has the break away option. I bought this new, cost was ~$900. I installed, again not too bad, I was able to tuck the air canister behind the bumper in front of the radiator, tight fit but limited other options. I bout a piece of heavy plastic in front to deflect dirt etc and protect it. Hardest part of the install was running a wire from the toad to the dash of the motorhome that is for the indicator light showing the brake is working.

I installed separate turn signal bulbs in each of the rear lights. The brake lights work when the brake is depressed. I just routed the wires up under the Jeep all the way back.

I have ~$1800 into the whole setup and it's worked great for the lat 6 years.
__________________
Jim J
2002 Monaco Windsor 38 PKD Cummins ISC 350 8.3L
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee w/5.7 Hemi
jacwjames is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 07:19 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
vito.a's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,649
Below is the link to the 2016 Motorhome Magazine guide to dingy towing. I don't think the 2017 guide is out yet. Ford is introducing new transmissions for the 2017 F-150 (a new 10 speed auto shared with GM). The transmission type and transfer case determines if it is flat towable.


Only the automatic transmission 4 wheel drive F-150 is towable for 2016 with the transfer case in neutral and the trans in 4 down tow mode.


I would check with Ford for the 2017 towability (good luck with this).


The guide also has some good info on towbars and braking.


http://webcontent.goodsam.com/motorh...inghyGuide.pdf
vito.a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 07:59 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Dupdyke's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Roseville MN sum / La Feria Tx winter
Posts: 790
Quote:
Originally Posted by SACIL9151 View Post
Hi, I am buying a new 2017 Ford F150 and plan on pulling it 4 on ground as toad. There are numerous rigs that are available but rather ask for advice from those with experience which rig to use. Roadmaster, etc. Also besides the initial purchase of towing rig what else is part of the toad setup? braking, additional lighting?? Sort of a novice but want to do it right. Plus rather be knowledgeable prior to walking into a place and being sold a setup that is not ideal for my situation. I have a Monaco Camelot 42 tandem rear axle setup with a Hydralift mounted from frame to pull toad. Tried to attach pic of my upcoming F150, sweet truck!!

thanks for all the advice.

Stan & Andrea
(ready to leave frigid cold Chicago and head to the Keys)
Is it 4x4 or are you going to use remco pump. I dont think auto ford trannys work like chev and can be towed in N My chev put key in aux and N and hook up blueox lets go.
__________________
Sheri & Don 2003 Dynasty 42" regal ISL 400
2007 Goldwing Trike Gmc 4X4 w/ autoloader for trike
Lets go we got it all loaded.
Dupdyke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 02:59 PM   #6
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Windy City except during cold months
Posts: 29
I have already checked it out & all good towing F150 2017, just a couple of pushes of a button & Bingo!!


Stan & Andrea
Windy City


Sent from my iPad using iRV2 - RV Forum
SACIL9151 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 03:06 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Windy City except during cold months
Posts: 29
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByiRV2 - RV Forum1481835955.426923.jpg
Views:	55
Size:	86.7 KB
ID:	146793

This will be behind my Monaco headed to Key West late January!!



Stan & Andrea
Windy City


Sent from my iPad using iRV2 - RV Forum
SACIL9151 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 03:12 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 252
We pull our 2015 F-150 4X4 four down with no trouble. Use a Blue Ox Avail towbar and Blue Ox Base plate with wiring system for the lights. Brakes are SMI Air Force 1. I installed everything myself in less than 4 hours. Can't remember the cost but didn't break the bank and works easily and trouble free.
__________________
Larry & Jean
Neverhome2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 03:21 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Mr_D's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Winnebago Owners Club
Solo Rvers Club
iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,154
The RoadMaster BrakeMaster unit is what I've used for years. The 9000 doesn't have the breakaway setup, the 9160 does, which is what I've used with the RoadMaster Sterling towbar and RoadMaster brackets.
I've seen a few reports lately about BlueOx bars breaking at the pivot ball now.
__________________
2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA, SKP
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '14 Jeep JKU Dragon Edition
Mr_D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 07:24 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
walt2137's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Quitman MS
Posts: 2,966
The Roadmaster brackets are a simple install on the F150 but I did have to remove the front tow hooks, I have used the Roadmaster Brakemaster for years but recently installed the M&G on the F-150 with breakaway and it was not a very difficult job but had to relocate the coolant tank, love the ease of hook up. I use a LED light strip and attach under on on the bottom lip of tail gate for tow lights. If I was to buy a new tow bar it would be a Demco, love their design and can get a new 10,000 on Amazon for about $500+, I am now using a 10,000 Blue Ox and I know of at least one breaking at the ball, Blue Ox seam to have a lot of tow equipment fail JMO. F-150 tows very well, no complaint .
All self installed.
__________________
Walt & Will
2000 Dynasty
2017 Ram Big Horn Crew C 4X4 w/ M&G
walt2137 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 07:56 PM   #11
Moderator Emeritus
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 7,902
Blog Entries: 1
We tow a 2014 F150 4X4. Love the truck.

We use the Blue Ox Aventa LX and SMI Air Force Once proportional braking system. I installed the base plate (pretty easy) and the Air Force One on the truck. The coach portion of the AF1 had already been installed on my coach by the dealer when we got the coach.

The only issue I've had with the F150 is sometimes it is a bit stubborn getting it to go into Neutral Tow mode. Sometimes it clicks in first time but at other times I have to repeat the process a couple of times to get it to engage.
__________________
2007 Country Coach Allure Siskiyou Summit, sold/traded Nov. 2018.
2019 Grand Designs 384GK-R 5th wheel. Glen Allen, VA
smlranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 08:04 PM   #12
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Windy City except during cold months
Posts: 29
When you install the tow bar on the F150, is it necessary to remove front bumper to install??
SACIL9151 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2016, 08:09 PM   #13
Moderator Emeritus
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 7,902
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by SACIL9151 View Post
When you install the tow bar on the F150, is it necessary to remove front bumper to install??
I had to remove the bumper and the tow hooks on my 2014 to install the Blue Ox base plate. Not sure about the 2017 but suspect if it has a similar bumper, it will have to come off for the installation.

If Blue Ox is making a baseplate for the 2017 model and lists it on their website, you can usually download the installation instructions.
__________________
2007 Country Coach Allure Siskiyou Summit, sold/traded Nov. 2018.
2019 Grand Designs 384GK-R 5th wheel. Glen Allen, VA
smlranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
monaco, toad



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thoughts on a 2005 Holiday Rambler Imperial 42DSQ cvbdsl Class A Motorhome Discussions 13 12-02-2016 09:37 PM
Can our F150 Pull 34' GVWR 9995 Trailer Kenandlinda Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 34 08-19-2016 01:05 AM
F150 toad Rog1965char Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 1 04-06-2014 06:39 PM
New Toad 2013 F150 4x4 King Ranch powerboatr Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 7 09-01-2013 05:38 AM
To Pull or Not to Pull Frac999 Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 32 08-11-2010 07:19 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.