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Old 10-12-2012, 09:16 AM   #1
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Monaco model line-up??

We spotted a 2003 Monaco Windsor 40 for sale in our area. We had not considered Monaco before so are unfamiliar with the model line up and where the Windsor model fit into the picture in the Pre-Navistar era.

Does anyone know what the model hierarchy was then? The NADA guide indicates that Windsor was the top level but I don't want to rely on that one source when there is so much good knowledge on this forum.

Does the Roadmaster of that period have 2 air bags per wheel like the newer ones?

Anyone have a Windsor of that period?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:13 PM   #2
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I believe the Windsor is a step up from the Diplomat, then the Dynasty and the top of the line is the Signature.

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Old 10-12-2012, 09:58 PM   #3
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The Windsor is the bottom model in the high end Monaco models, if that makes sense. Starting at Windsor, then Dynasty, then Executive, then Signature. Windsor has the 8 air bag Roadmaster chassis (2 outboard air bags per wheel). Dynasty, Executive, and Signature were the same until about 2001, when all those models started using tag axles, so that made 10 air bags.

Windsor used to be the same semi-monocogue chassis as the others, until I think about 2002. This means the wall frames and roof frames are all welded steel, also welded to the chassis. After 2002, or in 2002, the wall frames and roof frames are made of aluminum, bolted to the chassis. This was done in an effort to reduce the overall weight of the coach.

The Dynasty, Executive, Signature are still all steel welded construction. Because they have the tag axle, they can carry the extra weight.

The Windsor is a very strong coach. It's heavy, you will want to weigh it to figure out what's left for available carrying weight. Some of the single rear axle higher end Monaco coaches were close to the maximum GVWR empty.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:01 AM   #4
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You can visit the Monaco site.
There they have a brochure archive.
Monaco Coach - brochures
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Windsor Is The Entry Level Of Monaco's High End

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We spotted a 2003 Monaco Windsor 40 for sale in our area.

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Anyone have a Windsor of that period?

Thanks in advance.
Yes, I have a 2003 Windsor 38PBDD. As Jim and Dennis have said, it's the low end of the high end series of coaches.

With a 37,600 GVWR and an actual GVW wet (fuel and water tanks full) of 30,600, that leaves roughly 7,000 lbs of capacity for DW to fill with "stuff". That's pretty beefy for a coach that does not have a tag axle.

Your candidate being 40 feet and having the same GVWR will have a little less carrying capacity due to it's actual weight being a little higher. You'll have to weigh it to determine the actual carrying capacity.

Monaco has most of the brochures of that era on line except for the 2003 Windsor. I called Monaco at (877) 466-6226 and got a black and white 8 megabyte PDF of the 2003 Windsor brochure via e-mail. Or if you PM your e-mail to me, I'd be happy to send you a copy of mine.

Also, if you can supply the VIN, Monaco will e-mail you the original MSRP window sticker and the build sheet.

See Monaco Brochures Here

Our Windsor has been a great coach. 2003 was a transition year and they did some stupid things in laying out systems. The inverter charger is mounted in a way that blocks access to a sizable bit of storage. The hole in the floor of the wet bay through which the sewer hose passes was not aligned with the plumbing. But these are minor complaints compared to the coach as a whole.

It comes with either a 350HP ISC or 370HP ISL Cummins. Aqua Hot was an option and we love ours. Air leveling was also an option, another feature with which we are extremely happy.

With coaches of this size and age, condition and past care/use mean whole lot more than make, model, and factory support.

Good luck! Hope it pans out for you.
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Nice area you live in, DW has an aunt that lives between Sequim and PA. We stayed at Salt Creek campground a few years ago when we were up there, really enjoyed it.

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Thanks, Dennis. Yeah, it's picturesque OK, but a little chilly at times. We retired here from L.A. and the weather is ... different!
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:02 PM   #8
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At least you made it out of Kalifornia, I'm still looking for a place to land.

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