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Old 09-23-2007, 01:43 PM   #1
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I need some help from someone with a Thetford Tecma macerating pump toilet. I needed to replace the controller, and I accidently pulled the wires off the water solenoid without noting which way they go back on. They came off right at the solenoid and they could go back on either way. One wire is blue and the other black. Could someone look behind their toilet and, referring to the diagram here, tell me if the <span class="ev_code_BLUE">blue</span> wire goes to lug number 1 or 2?

If your installation is like mine, there is a cover on the "box" behind the toilet that can be lifted up and the sonoid can be seen with a flashlight.

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I need some help from someone with a Thetford Tecma macerating pump toilet. I needed to replace the controller, and I accidently pulled the wires off the water solenoid without noting which way they go back on. They came off right at the solenoid and they could go back on either way. One wire is blue and the other black. Could someone look behind their toilet and, referring to the diagram here, tell me if the <span class="ev_code_BLUE">blue</span> wire goes to lug number 1 or 2?

If your installation is like mine, there is a cover on the "box" behind the toilet that can be lifted up and the sonoid can be seen with a flashlight.

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Old 09-23-2007, 04:44 PM   #3
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Robin,
We are probably the only other people with this stupid toilet...of course it is only stupid cuz it uses so much water!
Looking at it from the top, the blue is on the left...which according to your diagram is lug #2...
...here's hoping that the two were wired the same!



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Old 09-24-2007, 04:58 AM   #4
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I don't have one of the macerating toilets and wasn't even aware they were offered on these coaches. But from the tone of y'alls posts, I guess I'm glad I don't have one.


I've heard that you should be careful when adding some of those bumper-mount ultrasonic deer-whistles – if you put them on backwards they will attract the deer instead. And that if you install batteries in a flashlite backwards, it will cast a shadow instead of a beam of light.

Glad ˜Mama got the polarity question answered for you, Robin. If you get those two wires reversed at the pump, does that mean the pump would have... EWWWW! Never mind!
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Mama,

That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks so much for taking the time to get down on your knees with a flashlight and look for me!!

I like the toilet, but you are right that it takes a tremedous amount of extra water. We are going to the Greensboro NC Monaco rally and I don't know how we're going to dry camp for 5 days with the thing. We'll be calling the honey wagon for sure.

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GREAT message! I knew where you were going half way through and started laughing. By the end of the message I was busting a gut, and everyone in the office was looking at me really funny-like.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:39 AM   #6
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Hey, glad I could liven-up your work-day.

And I may venture to say this probably isn't the first time they've looked at you like that
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But in all seriousness, is that toilet standard on the new coaches? Or was it an option? I didn't know it would/could be offered at this level.

The concept seems good, but your statement about the water-usage kinda turned me off to it. We can just about make 5-days with gray-water and easily with black-water, but if this thing is going to use/dump a lot more than that, it doesn't seem all that feasible.

Makes me wonder if the incinerator-toilets like I've seen for some boats might not be a better concept. (And I shall refrain from mentioning anything about campfires here).
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Robin...
Sacs is the one who got his head down in there through the top...I did take some pictures...but decided no one wanted to see the "workings" of the toilet...so I typed the message in ...after double checking the photo to make sure I understood what you were asking...
Now ... we just spent from Sunday to Friday AM dry camping at the other rally....along with showers and doing dishes... so I know you can manage to dry camp also...unless you are more full of "it" than me... and I doubt that!!



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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MonacoMama:
Robin...
Sacs is the one who got his head down in there through the top...I did take some pictures...but decided no one wanted to see the "workings" of the toilet... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well then, please pass my "Thanks" along to Sacs!!

Ur probably right - no one wants to see photographs of the inside of the toilet workings.

I think the trick to longer times between having to empty the black tank is in the conservative programing of the water level. While programing, you have to let up on the two buttons the instant water starts rising in the bowl. That's my theory, anyway, and that's what we'll try in Greensboro.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ronboc:
But in all seriousness, is that toilet standard on the new coaches? Or was it an option? I didn't know it would/could be offered at this level. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ron,

It's not an upgrade option - it depends on the floor plan. You get the Tecma toilet whenever the floor plan dictates that the toilet cannot be placed directly above the black holding tank. That would apply to the SFT, I think the SKQ (with he foreward galley), any coach with a rear bath, or any coach with two toilets. I think it also comes standard on some higher end coaches.

I really do like it, other than the amount of water it uses. It completely eliminates the possiblity of black tank odor getting into the coach. It looks just like the toilet that you might find in any home, except it has no holding tank, and it has the electric push-button flush pump mechanism. (I haven't yet added the Toto Jasmin S300 seat, however. )
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Thanks for the info, Robin. And yes that explains why they use it. Seems like a good idea.

Several years ago, we were looking at SOB coaches and one of them had a full-wall slide that did contain the entire bathroom in the slide. As I remember, the toilet was situated directly over the rear wheel-well with the sink & shower farther to the rear. There was this nightmarish Rube-Goldberg arrangement for the flexible-pipes to be able to snake down and back when the slide moved in/out, along with bungee-cords to keep it all in alignment. It was a mechanical marvel, but I was very worried about its potential future problems.

On the other hand, it also had 4 (count 'em FOUR!) tv's... One in the front overhead, one under the kitchen cabinet, one in the rear bedroom, and one in that bathroom! Guess you're not supposed to worry about broken pipes if you can watch Jerry Springer in comfort.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ronboc:
There was this nightmarish Rube-Goldberg arrangement for the flexible-pipes to be able to snake down and back when the slide moved in/out, along with bungee-cords to keep it all in alignment. It was a mechanical marvel, but I was very worried about its potential future problems. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, that sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen. I remember when kitchen slides first came out there were problems with the plumbing on them. Don't hear about those problems much any more. I'm not aware of any Monaco floor plans that have a bathroom in a slide, thank goodness. Interresting that they've started putting bathrooms over the engine, all the way to the rear. That kind of makes sense, I guess.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">While programing, you have to let up on the two buttons the instant water starts rising in the bowl </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Robin....I can tell you that Sacs had better luck adjusting the water amount by turning off the water pump at the level he wanted it. It seems to us that the 2 button adjustment tends to add a little more than we like...
Have fun...and be careful of all the food & alcohol...very easy to gain weight!



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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MonacoMama:
Robin....I can tell you that Sacs had better luck adjusting the water amount by turning off the water pump at the level he wanted it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I didn't know that would work. I'll try it. Thanks.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Have fun...and be careful of all the food & alcohol...very easy to gain weight! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I can't gain any more weight. There wouldn't be anyplace for me to put it.
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